i you run into a jw on the street handing out magazines and have a brief encounter with them what do you think the one best thing to leave them with in the hope of getting them to start thinking for themself.
do you think it is best to tell them about a website?
a false prophecy or what?.
Well, when I used to preach, I dreaded conversations because I was always afraid someone might tell me to f off :p
So, if any of them actually gather the courage to talk to me, I'd be polite. I wouldn't accept anything, but still, being nice don't kill me.... right?
hello guys, i've been a lurker for quite some time and am a little curious to know if there are any people from mexico regurarly posting on this board..
My old congregations were full of us!!! My dad is Mexican, mom Cuban, but yeah, I definitely consider myself more Mexican (I was living in Mexico for two years as a nine year old with my grandma :p cows!).
for the last four days, every morning i take donut out for her walk, i always find jw's preaching door to door across the street.
i always cross to them, and wait with dread at what i think is inevitable: they will try to preach to me.. but it never happens.
four days, seen three diifferent groups, nothing.
the max- awwwwww
FifthOfNovemeber- Yes, I understand that. But there's a difference between 'ignoring' and flat out being mean. Trust me, I've dealt with snubbers, and this was snubbing. Looking at you and smirking or giggling AS they stare at you? Yeah, that's not ignoring me. Really rude, and disconcerting when it's coming from older women.
i was thinking about what the elders are trained to do versus what i personally would do if a minor confided in me that someone was molesting him/her.
i'm not sure what the ethically correct first response should be.
my first thought is to contact some kind of law enforcement that specializes in investigating situations like this with people experienced in getting to the truth of the matter.
Hi OP, I honestly would contact Child Services, or at the very least, the cops. This actually happened to my family.. the little girl my mom babysat was found to be molested (the little girl's mom claims this, not my mom), and for some really stupid reason, my sibling was thought to be guilty (even though my sibling rarely saw the kid due to school and was always locked in their room up in the second story anyway). There was a huge fallout between families, and the mom, stupid woman that she is, went to the Elders to get some 'justice' for her baby.
What ended up happening was the Elders questioned everybody involved in this situation, they never once contacted any authorities, they reached the conclusion that just because my sibling had openly said they disliked the little girl, that was not enough evidence (that and the fact that my sibling was around ten, and again, she RARELY was home.
I don't get the mom at all. There were other two other people she could've accused that WERE around the baby, that being myself and my brother(it was neither of us. My mom was actually worried about something like this happening, so she never left the baby out of her sight or alone with anybody that wasn't herself. And no, wasn't my mom, because as evil as I think she is, all of her kids were molested as babies. She went to therapy and for a long time, researched this subject. Ironic that it happened yet again and one of her own was accused of it.))Turns out, that after this whole fiasco that affected my sibling deepling and to this day has scarred them emotionally (to the point where my siblings HATES children, never wnats to be around them, doesn't even want to pick their niece), the stepfather might've done it. Might've, because the stupid mom didn't want the authorities involved, so there was no way of phsysically proving it was him (though it was suspected all along). My mom updated me on this situation, and the mom left the stepfather. But that family still resents us, probably because it opened a whole can of worms that they wanted to ignore.
And yes, the stepdad was a JW, baptized, a regular publisher, and was sustaining the mom and her other kid from a failed marriage.
Again, no authorities were ever contacted, no therapy was provided for the abused child or their family. My sibling did get help, and so did my whole family. This thing that happened could've been avoided if there were better suggestions, instead of the whole 'let's not bring the cops into this because it makes the organization look bad'.
Assholes.
would you have believed it ?
( i give credit to the poster password protected for giving me the idea of this thread ) .. after exiting the witnesses in 2003 i have noticed many changes within the wt society which really surprised me but after analyzing the changes - they really have convinced me the wt society and jehovah's witnesses are a mind control cult intent on ruling people's lives.
here are some i have noticed that have changed :.
nugget- Seriously? They made those changes(baptism question and apparel)? I had no idea! Wow, I'm speechless. I don't understand how people can't see through the system... I really hope more and more outrageous changes occer and cause some to open their eyes. Just sad stuff.
for the last four days, every morning i take donut out for her walk, i always find jw's preaching door to door across the street.
i always cross to them, and wait with dread at what i think is inevitable: they will try to preach to me.. but it never happens.
four days, seen three diifferent groups, nothing.
LOL, omg you guys are hillarious!
I should've clarified- During the time I was active back in Chicago we were actually encouraged to approach strangers walking around, no matter what they looked like, no matter if we just gave them a brochure or a magazine. They told us the point was to reach as many people as we could, and I did approach strangers and many others did. Which is why I was shocked to see how they acted, because I assumed it was a universal thing :p.
Funny thing, I was walking to the library today and saw them again- only this time it was the English speaking and they were older African American brothers and sisters. They did not speak to me, but they also did not snub me, they smiled at me but not condescendingly. I guess it's better this way, even if they don't talk to you, because it isn't as off putting as somebody looking down on you with pity, a stranger in the middle of the day giving you the stink eye.
You guys are right though, I should not lower my self to their level :p. Sometimes I get a little hot headed when people make assumptions about me (like, when you go to a fancy restaurant and the server is ignoring you and giving you terrible service because they see you all young looking and wearing band shirts, even though you can afford it and was willing to tip the server).
the_max- Whoa, that's an excellent suggestion!!! I'm telling the dog's daddy, see if he wants to go along with it >:)
how many jw kids are homeschooled where you are?
its not very common here in the borough where i live.
i just found out on the grapevine that a girl i know is taking her kids out of our very good primary school because she feels the other children are having such a bad influence on her kids.
I know a girl who used to be homeschooled. She's two years younger, and she used to give me book study when I was eleven. In high school, her parents kept her home for freshman and sophmore year. It was a fact she was easy, did drugs, and I guess in her junior year she got put in public school for some reason. She ran among my circle, and was really pretty, but always seemed to be doing something against JW doctrines. Last I heard, her dad was still an elder and her brother a pioneer regardless of the knowledge of what the girl did.
for the last four days, every morning i take donut out for her walk, i always find jw's preaching door to door across the street.
i always cross to them, and wait with dread at what i think is inevitable: they will try to preach to me.. but it never happens.
four days, seen three diifferent groups, nothing.
For the last four days, every morning I take Donut out for her walk, I always find JW's preaching door to door across the street. I always cross to them, and wait with dread at what I think is inevitable: they will try to preach to me.
But it never happens. Four days, seen three diifferent groups, nothing. The young women always grin and turn their noses up (seriously, it looks ridiculous when they attempt it) and the older people just smile patronizingly at me. I wonder if this is a new tactic, ignore the young looking wordly people, or the ones that look really weird.
Anyway, it got me thinking: I would like to say something or do something at the snubbing. To be honest, it does hurt to see them completely ignore me. I would loove to go up to one of them and ask if it's a new doctrine or movement, just snub the worldly people you don't like, and if Jehovah would appreciate that.
Anybody got anything better? I do not want to be offensive, but I truly am curious as to why they see me all these days and snub me so batantly.
would you have believed it ?
( i give credit to the poster password protected for giving me the idea of this thread ) .. after exiting the witnesses in 2003 i have noticed many changes within the wt society which really surprised me but after analyzing the changes - they really have convinced me the wt society and jehovah's witnesses are a mind control cult intent on ruling people's lives.
here are some i have noticed that have changed :.
Numbers 3 and 4 had me really confused. For a while there, I thought number 3 was changed because of word getting out about the nearby, including our, congregations doing a social right afterward (like, people would bulldoze through the questions just so we could get to the delicious pastries and atoles). Number 4 was one of the things that made me uneasy- it was then I knew I'd never buy into this farce ever again (I don't buy their excuses. I think it's offensive).
perhaps something that happened in fs, the memorial, convention etc.
i need a laugh.
last year at the memorial, an old brother was so shaky in the hands, when he passed the wine it spilled all over him.
Funniest... people falling down when their chairs break because we were too cheap and went with the frail plastic ones for the book study. Kinda mean, but the fact that we tried so hard to keep going without bursting out laughing was great. You could hear brothers and sisters of all ages giggling or holding their sides, while the study conductor was stuttering and sweating like crazy.
Or when the microphones go off or make that terrible feedback noise. Good distractions.
