this deserved its own thread.
one thing i have observed being able to speak freely to individuals now about the wtbts is that even though they fade, they hold one to all or a portion of the doctrine.. if you examine the doctrine openly and fully you will see it has as many holes in it as the org does.
although it may appeal to you it doesn't make it sound scripturally.
I think he got tired of our arguments regarding "God" and the Bible, with me just spewing out JW doctrine without ever backing it up. I'm very thankful he did, because it made me realize what a hole I was in.
It really is a 'slap in the face' moment, isn't it, when you realize you can't no longer hide behind a belief you don't really believe in anymore?
I have many family members who are doing the 'I don't know' position when asked, but little by little I see them coming out of it. :)
(this is creepy, funny and shocking so i thought i would share - sorry if its ever been posted before.
) parts 2-5 will follow!
the diary of an .
Huh, I'd never heard of this before, but this was great! I'm sharing this with my sister and mom, if she let's me!!!
I love reading and researching about catastrophes and the appropiate response to them, just in casy you know ;). And this is EXACTLY what I used to think as a young'un, about how there would be so much conflict, and how none of us JWs were really ready for it. I once overheard a couple of sisters arguing about who would get which house once the worldly people would be dead, and that definitely scarred me as a kid. They think it will be all sunshine and happiness, but not once do they ever imagine the cleaning up, the forces of nature, where would food come from... And if you ask (I did, my dad did) the elders, their response was :"Jehovah will provide".
What a joke.
this deserved its own thread.
one thing i have observed being able to speak freely to individuals now about the wtbts is that even though they fade, they hold one to all or a portion of the doctrine.. if you examine the doctrine openly and fully you will see it has as many holes in it as the org does.
although it may appeal to you it doesn't make it sound scripturally.
I myself still believed in the doctrine up until just a few months ago. My husband sat me down, asked me to explain EVERYTHING I believ in and why, and I just couldn't. I could spew all the information, the bible quotes, the actual book and magazine quotes... but it just rang so hollow to me. That day, I was very disturbed, and I was still in denial for a while.
Nowadays, it still is a bit hard to fully comprehend what I feel. I know the truth, I know JW doctrine isn't the truth, but after so many years of getting it hammered in your head as a kid, it's a hard thing to let go. If I talk to family who are still JWs or who are DFd, I just mentioned the whole 'I'm out but I still think they were right on some things' even if I don't believe it, just avoid confrontation.
But definitely, this is a huge 'issue' for many ex-JWs.
my husband and i had a nice visit with frank toth at grace gough's home.
it was great.
he has written a few things.
Awesome list! Definitely going to read them to my husband and brother!
oh man!
i almost died reading this list from the private jw group on facebook.
usually the posts there are quite nauseating, but this topic was priceless.
Bwuahaha this is GRRREAT!!!
a friend just showed me a message from steven unthank on facebook where he mentioned (about 4 hours ago) that the state of victoria will be launching an investigation into all religions, including the jehovah's witnesses... he also mentioned that he will likely testify.. i don't know anything else about this because the message was brief, but i assume it has something to do with the protection of pedophiles.... has anyone else heard this yet?.
:o That's crazy! Wow, very glad to hear though, no matter what religion/organization, there are too many accounts of child molestation... well, there should be NONE at all!!!
But yeah, this will definitely make the org and their little sheep feel like they were right all along, everything is going right on time...
wonder how many jw boys went yum!
(awake!
on social networking).
is that a hipster douche I see in there?
:o
little miss goth's strand-in-the-middle-of-her-face is killing me!!!
this is sort of random but.... .
i was talking to my brother the other day... and he spilled the beans on some jw friends we had back in the day.
these were hard-core, religious jw teenagers, the kind that were chaperoned when they went on dates with good-standing sisters, the kind that, while they would not snitch on you, they would 'lovingly' offer counsel and all that.. .
talespin- Awww, I'm glad to hear everything turned out alright :) And you ARE weird, no munchies :o!!!!
Ya know, you didn't miss out much on those JW boys... pretty flaky, many momma's boy :p
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17703018.
following a stroke, chris birch's personality and sexuality altered dramatically.
now he is trying to rediscover who he is and why these changes may have happened.
I've heard of cases like this. Some part of the brain becomes affected due to injury, and perhaps it does alter one's ... preferences.
I believe it can happen. Stranger things happen...
i agree with a fellow who said "bigfoot is blurry.
that's why in all the pictures you see of him you can't make him out.
there's nothing scarier than the thought of a huge, out of focus monster running around in the woods!
Everytime someone mentiones Nessy, I think about that Simpson's episode where Mr. Burns finds the Loch Ness Monster and has it on display.
