This has always been a sore point with me and the JW's. My father in law (one of the sweetest men ever to walk this earth!) died after a valient 18 month long fight with cancer. At his death even though he was in good standing in the congregation although no longer an elder (he may have been an MS) he had been an elder for years but had moved recently to a new congregation, he had been in the congregation for approx 3-4 years and very well liked. In spite of all this no one wanted to do his funeral, we literally had to beg someone to do his funeral after asking several people! This was a man who was well liked! How sickening! The whole thing was a recruitement ceremony. Even my mother in law, a long standing JW was in shock. It was a last straw for me, people who had been in business contacts with the man dropped food by the house and did so many nice things while the JW's just came by to eat afterwards. Several asked me why they didn't talk about the many nice things he had done in his life, I just told then they were crazy, what was I to say? Needless to say, my husband took this as a turning point also. I told him if I die before him if the JW's come near me I will find a way to haunt them all!
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Me And Funerals!
by Frenchy ini made a remark recently about funerals being sore spot with me on the thread funerals.
this is in response to sunspots request for my experience with funerals.
it would probably take less time for me to just write it again than to look it up...lol!.
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Me And Funerals!
by Frenchy ini made a remark recently about funerals being sore spot with me on the thread funerals.
this is in response to sunspots request for my experience with funerals.
it would probably take less time for me to just write it again than to look it up...lol!.
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This has always been a sore point with me and the JW's. My father in law (one of the sweetest men ever to walk this earth!) died after a valient 18 month long fight with cancer. At his death even though he was in good standing in the congregation although no longer an elder (he may have been an MS) he had been an elder for years but had moved recently to a new congregation, he had been in the congregation for approx 3-4 years and very well liked. In spite of all this no one wanted to do his funeral, we literally had to beg someone to do his funeral after asking several people! This was a man who was well liked! How sickening! The whole thing was a recruitement ceremony. Even my mother in law, a long standing JW was in shock. It was a last straw for me, people who had been in business contacts with the man dropped food by the house and did so many nice things while the JW's just came by to eat afterwards. Several asked me why they didn't talk about the many nice things he had done in his life, I just told then they were crazy, what was I to say? Needless to say, my husband took this as a turning point also. I told him if I die before him if the JW's come near me I will find a way to haunt them all!
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Its the Whole Premise that Gets Me
by pettygrudger in#1 - original sin: supposedly all this stuff is going on because adam/eve "ate the fruit" (type of fruit still under question).
because of this, god let billions & billions of people, "his children", suffer imperfection, pestilence, plague, wars,death, etc.
& let his "true followers" throughout bible history be persecuted because of this "original sin".
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My question, ever since I was very small, if Eve was a perfect human why did she eat from the tree at all? If she were perfect she would have known this was a falsehood. My mother never could answer her little 5 year old on that one and still can't.
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Because you didn't want 3!!
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When Death Leaves You All Alone.
by Englishman ini've just had a really interesting chat with my nearest and dearest.. .
we were talking about the fact that when one of us dies the other will be left alone.
we agreed that the surviving one should be able to talk about the deceased one without adopting a holy sepulchral voice and that both our spoken and remembered memories of each other will be full of fun and laughter.. we also agreed that the surviving mate would want to build a new life, take on fresh interests and travel the world as much as possible.
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That is exactly what my husband and I have discussed! Having an Irish background I want a good old fashioned wake with lots of drinking and carousing! I believe your life should be celebrated, imagine what will happen if I go before my mother and in-laws do (both devout dubs!), they think I will of course "at least" have a JW funeral. Not on your life, so to speak!
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Do Majority of exJWs remain Christians?
by Ray Skyhorse indo the majority of exjws retain a christian faith after leaving the borg?
does the majority of exjws continue studying the bible on their own or join a new christian group that's less rigid than the jws?
or does the majority say to hell with christianity?.
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Christian or not I don't know. I do know that I have questioned everything and most I have found I no longer believe in. I do know that I am a very spiritual person, but I don't believe that has anything to do with religion, just that I am much more comfortable with myself and expressing my own personal views and viewpoints with others including my husband who is also an ex-dub, something we could NEVER discuss before.
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Check out a new one for Silentlambs..............
by manicmama inthere is a new one for silentlambs to check out in the cabool congregation of se missouri.
the 2 young victims mentioned in the article are his 2 step children, i have no idea whether or not the wife and children are still in the home but he is under house arrest.
how would you like that....sentenced to house arrest with your rapist??
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There is a new one for Silentlambs to check out in the Cabool congregation of SE Missouri. The 2 young victims mentioned in the article are his 2 step children, I have no idea whether or not the wife and children are still in the home but he is under house arrest. How would you like that....sentenced to house arrest with your rapist?? How do these elders sleep??? Check out the link at www.KY3.com, right now it is the front page story!
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Tales from the Couch
by Seven ini asked my therapist if it is possible for a patient to be re-traumatized during the course of treatment.
confronting memories over and over again.
painting mental images even more graphic to replace the vague ones i once had-is this a good thing?
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Still here Seven!
Enjoying finding out that I'm not the only one with all of these feelings at the same problems!
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Feels good to be free
by MoodyBlue init feels great to be free.
it feels great to go out with old girlfriends for beer and wings.
it feels great to walk down the street and smile at people i don't know.
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My sentiments exactly! I also greatly enjoy celebrating my childrens birthdays! Their births brought me and my husband great joy and I never did understand even as a small child why this was such a big deal, except that money could go into the contribution box!
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Tales from the Couch
by Seven ini asked my therapist if it is possible for a patient to be re-traumatized during the course of treatment.
confronting memories over and over again.
painting mental images even more graphic to replace the vague ones i once had-is this a good thing?
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Red Horse Woman how right you are that someone would read those words and it would touch there soul. Seven of nine it feels as if you crawled inside my head and have been reading my thoughts and literally tugging at my soul! This is my first post to the forum although I have been a lurker for quite awhile. I have not worked up the energy or angst yet to look for a therapist of my own, the only "demons" I have are the ones the JW's have given me themselves. Eventually I will work up to it. I just wanted to thank you for such a wonderful post and not to think for a minute that there are not many people out there that are reading and feeling the same as I am!
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