I think this new generation teaching is going to be a wake up call for many. I'm seriously half expecting a call from some of my old JW friends any day now. Even if they kind of accept it for now, it has to be eating away at their sensibilities. The only stuff that makes less sense is the stuff they surround the discussions with. The one I listened to went on about how Jesus wasn't using generation in a negative context when he refereed to this.
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Reasons for doubting.
by New day insomebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.
i am in a similar position.
i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.
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Things WT Would Have To Do To Be An Acceptable Religion
by JW_Rogue indrop shunning or at least drop shunning among family members.
make blood transfusions a conscience matter, no more hlc.
drop the two witness rule, mandatory reporting of child abuse, no privileges for offenders.
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mynameislame
What they need to do is find a way to push out the people on the fence. Then phase out the religion to keep the totally hard core JWs from jumping off bridges. -
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Is it "volunteering" or is it "slavery" or something else?
by Scully inthe wts depends almost exclusively on a volunteer labor force.
its members volunteer their time, goods and services for the benefit and financial gain of the wts.
the "carrot" that drives this volunteerism is god's favour, and ostensibly the further recruitment of new volunteers who will also use their time, goods and services for the benefit and financial gain of the wts.. however, when the "carrot" turns out to be part of a con, and turns out to be completely false (as it often does in areas where human traffickers use the promise of "a better life" or "a better future" to recruit people) it is referred to as slavery.. people willingly sign up for what turns out to be slave labour, and often sign their children up for what turns out to be slave labour, on the false promise of bettering themselves.. now i know that bethelitestm, missionariestm and special pioneerstm receive a very modest monthly stipend that doesn't even cover personal care supplies, much less provide for clothing, transportation, etc., and that these folks rely heavily on the generosity of brotherstm and sisterstm.
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mynameislame
Regarding children, I don't know how they get away with having children dedicate themselves to the organization. A simple baptism might be OK but there is no way a young person understands what is involved in the JW version of Baptism. They are probably getting away with it because most people (even JWs) don't understand how much more there is to a JW baptism. -
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Watchtower Magazine
by poppers indoes anyone have a scan of a watchtower magazine article that shows the questions posed and answers on the bottom of the page?
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mynameislame
Do you mean when they used to have the questions for the paragraphs at the bottom of the page? I don't think those ever included the answers, it would be a bit redundant. If you can't figure out the answer by reading the paragraph you might not be breathing. -
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Blondie's Comments on the 11-8-2015 WT Study
by blondie inblondies highlights from the 11-08-2015 wt study (july 15, 2015).
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
paragraph 11-15 recreation.
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I found it interesting that they are talking about training your conscience but none of the scriptures they used seem to back this up. What would be the point of a conscience if it needed to be trained? -
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Fake Reporting, Growth and Crap Blessings
by cookiemaster ini think the numbers shown in the yearbook and with other occasions that are used by the gibberish buddies to boast about the blessings from jehovah are super fake and inflated, much of it even without their knowledge.
i think they like to take advantage of all sorts of technicalities and loopholes to report numbers as great as possible, but it's not like jws are super reliable sources of reporting.for example i have not been in field circus for something like two years.
i never talked about "the truth" with any non-jw, yet i've never been considered inactive.
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mynameislame
An interesting change to the oranized book was pointed out on reddit recently. Probably originally cross posted from here but it is germane to this conversation so i'll cross post back.
The new version adds the following:
The Governing Body does not impose its conscience on the worldwide congregation as to how time spent in field service is to be counted, nor has anyone else been appointed to make a judgment in this matter.
It also deletes the following which was in the 2005 book:
There are essential activities for which time is not counted, such as ... traveling to and from the territory.
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Hidden From Jehovah's Witness videos
by Vortex inthis video deal with some really important information that i wanted to share with you all, looks like it may have hit a nerve in the watchtower, because the stock link he mentioned in the video has been taken down, it was up yesterday, he says he plays chess and anticipated they would do that, so he supplied a secondary link to the same information.
the entire 8 part series is very informative exposing alot about watchtower doctrine, and hidden elements.
here is the link to the video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0lrdx3vpug.
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Hidden From Jehovah's Witness videos
by Vortex inthis video deal with some really important information that i wanted to share with you all, looks like it may have hit a nerve in the watchtower, because the stock link he mentioned in the video has been taken down, it was up yesterday, he says he plays chess and anticipated they would do that, so he supplied a secondary link to the same information.
the entire 8 part series is very informative exposing alot about watchtower doctrine, and hidden elements.
here is the link to the video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0lrdx3vpug.
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mynameislame
Granted, these are holdings in a mutual fund with a diverse portfolio of holdings.
Lets not forget that there are socially responsible funds to choose from. That these funds even exist shows that there are non-JWs that are more concerned with clean investing than the JWs are.
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Remember when you could wear casual clothes to the congregation book study?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini would get home from work,eat dinner,shower and put on jeans,a shirt and gym shoes to the book study.
then,one day a letter was read where men would need to wear a suit and tie and the woman would have to wear dresses.
it was stated in a letter that the change was due to, '' giving a better witness to anyone who would watch us walking into our local congregation or a neighbor's house.''.
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mynameislame
Must have been a local needs talk because it was never OK to wear jeans to the book study. Casual would mean business casual with a tie. -
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JW.ORG Website Reviews
by Petraglyph inseems like a nice website.... http://www.webwiki.com/jw.org.
...it's got some good reviews ;).
interesting that jw.org appears to be hosted by amazon web services and based in amsterdam..
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mynameislame
So what you are saying Robert, is that every visit by an apostate to jw.borg is costing them certain “valuable things”?