Posts by Marilyn

Dear MrMoe, DON'T DO IT! Think of it like this: If you'd signed up to Amway or Nutrametics (similiar pyramid selling scams as the WT), and you eventually became inactive - would you feel the need to write them a letter 5 yrs down the track and tell them you formally disassociate yourself from their organisations? Silly huh? Well it's the same with the Tower. They are nothing. They are just a bunch of silly, small people, peddling a scam. Lots of people are sucked in and lots of people wake up to them. Just walk away and don't give them a second thought. (yeah right!) OK, but you know what I mean?

I slipped away and I didn't get the chance you've been given. They came after me and disfellowshipped me two years later for daring to leave. It has caused the most terrible heart ache for my parents. In fact I honestly believe that it may have been the reason my mother developed breast cancer - as grief and severe stress can do that. Plus my father had a massive heart attack within 4 yrs of my being disfellowshipped. Both my parents were hounded by the elders to have nothing to do with me. It went on and on for years. They were so distressed by it all. I've been disfellowhipped for 20 yrs now and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Zip up your mouth and say nothing and be glad you can give your parents this gift of your association.

all the best
Marilyn

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What's the Deal On Deactivating?

by Bud in

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friends

sorry if this is the wrong forum for this question.

it just doesn't seem like one for the technical support.. dumb question?

what's the big deal having your registration to post "deactivated" on this board?.

Marilyn

::::::There seem to be quite a few megalomaniacs here, and as many willing to feed them.

Hi Bud, I thought this comment was unnecessarily provocative. I often see new people come along and start out 'on the wrong foot' by implying things that are a little unfair. This is how I interpretted the comment above. I decided to defent the friends here by suggesting that you were attention seeking. (tit for tat) Perhaps you would care to elaborate on the megalomaniac element that you feel exists here. My explanation was that it takes a strong person to exist a cult. We are strong minded people here. Does that make us megalomaniacs?

Bud, for what it's worth, I don't like to argue with people on forums and I rarely do so. (used to when I first got on line, but can't see the point any more). I sensed that you were spoiling for a fight, coz of the above comment and I decided to raise the stakes. I apologise to you completely. I did not mean to offend and I will accept that you did not mean to offend as well.

I'm off to swim laps. (my favorite part of the day!).

Waiting. I love your posts. Thanx for your warm response to mine.

Marilyn

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What's the Deal On Deactivating?

by Bud in

jw
friends

sorry if this is the wrong forum for this question.

it just doesn't seem like one for the technical support.. dumb question?

what's the big deal having your registration to post "deactivated" on this board?.

Marilyn

::::::There seem to be quite a few megalomaniacs here, and as many willing to feed them.

Bud, You seem to be doing a bit of attention seeking yourself. Megalomaniac or just plain self assured, it takes a special quality to extracte ones self from a cult. There are many left inside the WTS who would like to get out but lack the guts to stand up and be counted.

I would never announce I'm leaving a forum, coz I'm sure no one would give a rats ass. Maybe it's a case of 'you get out what you put in'. I don't put much in here, so no one would care if I left. I'm realistic.

You seem somewhat aggressive. Have you got something specific you want to get off your chest?

Marilyn

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Mad as hell...shivered and cried like baby

by DannyBear in

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friends

yesterday, when farkel announced his departure and shunning of us all, i was incensed and outraged.

in fact i had similar feeling's to those day's 20yrs ago, after being df'd, where former friends and relatives, just simply said 'your no good, your not worthy of my/our attention anymore' turned thier back's and walked away from me.

then witnessed farkel ignore the sweet comments lilac's writes just for him....made we want to ring his neck.

Marilyn

Danny if you aren't getting some regular exercise then it's time you started. I'm newly converted, which is a pain I know, but it's made a lot of difference to me. It takes the edge of my insanity! I only started exercising to use up my excess energy, which displayed itself in the form of anxiety. I am as regular with exercise as I was with meetings - religious!!! But fifteen months in, it's as good as paxil and I've now tried both. Only difference is that exercise doesn't ruin your sex life! So if you find this mood hangs around longer than a few days, drag your sorry arse into some shorts or swim wear and start moving a lot faster than you are used to. If nothing else it makes you too tired to be retched!

good luck
Marilyn

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Mad as hell...shivered and cried like baby

by DannyBear in

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friends

yesterday, when farkel announced his departure and shunning of us all, i was incensed and outraged.

in fact i had similar feeling's to those day's 20yrs ago, after being df'd, where former friends and relatives, just simply said 'your no good, your not worthy of my/our attention anymore' turned thier back's and walked away from me.

then witnessed farkel ignore the sweet comments lilac's writes just for him....made we want to ring his neck.

Marilyn

Danny, Hugs!!

I have experienced the feelings you talk of. They just creep up on you when you aren't looking. I have felt like that about exjw cyber friends spitting the dummy too - but you know what? I've seen a lot of them spit the dummy and then come on back with their tails between their legs. I think they just needed a break and they weren't grown up enough to recognise the situation for what it was. Still I didn't know that all those ones you mentioned have left the forum. Some of them were probably spread too thin. I like my approach much better. I just come and go as the mood takes me. I don't miss it when I'm away and when I'm back I love catching up with everyone. It doesn't make me very reliable as a cyber friend - but I still know and care about a few here - and you are one of them. Yours is the only post I'll read today.

Hope that tells you how important you are to some of us!
love
Marilyn

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New beginnings....

by FreePeace in

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this piece was just posted on my empowered recovery discussion group.

it came at just the right time for me--i needed it.

i thought i would share it with all of you, my friends.. .

Marilyn

Hi doug, I emailed you privately.

regards
Marilyn

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New beginnings....

by FreePeace in

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friends

this piece was just posted on my empowered recovery discussion group.

it came at just the right time for me--i needed it.

i thought i would share it with all of you, my friends.. .

Marilyn

Freepeace, what is the Empowered Recovery discussion group you talk of? Is it specifically for religion or does it cover recovery from all kinds of emotional traumas?

kind regards
Marilyn

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intro/ brief vent

by Axelspeed in

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hello..new to the board, though i have lurked for a while.

this is surprising because just a few months ago it would have been unthinkable.

if some even thought that i hinted in this direction, ....i dont even want to try and explain the repercussions.

Marilyn

I am always troubled when I read posts like yours. Maybe it reminds me of the turmoil that we waded thru over 20 yrs ago when we thought our way "out". I never feel triumphant when I read posts like yours - I just feel sadness. I hate to see others have to go thru this process - it just seems so hard.

On a positive note - we made the break, in the face of no support, but my husband and I left together. We just knew that something was very wrong. When we were thinking our way out in the late 70's, there was no internet or literature about mind control or critical thinking (that we knew of). We were very much on our own with only our commonsense to guide us. We made the right move, even being honest with the congregation about our loss of faith, and we paid the ultimate price of disfellowshippment, which robbed me of my family. There has been a lot of tears and frustration over the years, and I still feel the stupidity of it all - when I hear of weddings or funerals etc in my family, but all in all, there was no other path for us. There was no turning back once we'd realised the real truth of the matter.

You sound like you have your head screwed on the right way, and I wish you well with what ever course you feel you must take. My advice is to take your time and think about all aspects of your decision making.

Best wishes
Marilyn

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What if there was not DFing of apostates?

by YoYoMama in

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i was wondering today.

what if the witnesses did not have a policy of disfellowshipping those that are apostates.

what would the congregations be like?

Marilyn

Sadiejive, not to mention their flawed system of judging others. By their own reckoning they are imperfect, yet the WTS gives its flawed members the authority to dictate who shall have their family taken from them and who shan't. Their whole disfellowshipping arrangment is problematic and seldom meters out true justice or serves to keep the congregation clean. It just serves as a warning to others to tow the party line and never question WTS teachings.

Guess you have them pretty well summed up though.

Marilyn