Posts by fulano

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I am leaving my wife...

by fulano in

and i feel sad.

everything happened so fast, 1999 back from patterson, 2000 inactive and no longer an elder, 2001 smoking everything that planet earth offers, and now in love with a girl for a couple of months.

i feel sad but liberated.

fulano

I read my original post from 11 yeras ago.

Despite all the good advices you gave me, I left my wife and I married the girl in 2004 and in september we will be married for 10 fine and happy years.

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How is the org really run? What goes on behind the scenes?

by Magnum in

how is the org really run?

what goes on behind the scenes?.

i just read an older post on this site that was recently bumped (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/6600/1/don-adams-biography) the post mentioned the adams brothers don, karl, & joel and how influential they are/were at headquarters.

fulano

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The Governing Body members are no longer Directors on the WTBTS. The WTBTS controls all the money and assets as well as much more. They are the recognized legal entity by law.

If the WTBTS decided to ignore the Governing Body then the Governing Body would need to sue the WTBTS in order to gain control, if it is at all possible and recognized in the current Charter. The Governing Body members do not have much money to fight the WTBTS.

I am unable to find the current WTBTS Charter. The only one that I can find is the 1945 Charter but there have been a number of changes made to that since then. It would be insightful to know how the Charter currently addresses the authority of the Governing Body.

Does anyone know why the 1945 Charter is readily available but the current charter is not?"[/quote]

I know two members of the Wtbts, one died, an old missionary in the DR, the other one still alive, a branch coordinator. They deeply respect and respected the GB, and even accepted the smallest and most modest room at Bethel at the time of the annual meeting.

Sorry but I still don't know how to quote proporly nor adjust profile on this site.

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loesch likes C of C

by bigmac in

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fulano

I don't blame you lack of knowledge and education is a disadvantage anywhere.

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loesch likes C of C

by bigmac in

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fulano

I worked during my missionary-service for a year in Brooklyn and Patterson, and lived in the same building as Lösch, The Bossert, the beautiful renovated hotel. I have met him several times in the library and had some conversations with him (half german half english), and he was very kind and interested in the missionary work. As I was the homeoverseer of the missionary-home in my assignment I invited hime to come over for a week or so on the island we served.

Then I mentioned the name of a german couple that lived with us and he was in the same Gilead class as that german brother. He really went there a couple of months after I had to leave for another assignment. We also met some times in the local liquor store in Montaguestraat where he used to buy botles of wine without shame or hipocresy, other bethelites would go to other stores in Brooklyn...or maybe because it was cheaper there :).

So I can't have a bad impression of him, the same as Jack Barr, he was in my congregation and offered inmediatly his own room in Patterson when I told him we had to go there, "nicer than the guest-rooms" , he said.

Ray Franz, I never met him but have first-hand stories from older missionaries who worked with him.

One told me at the time he was a district-overseer in Puerto Rico and that missionary took him to bible-studies, he just let the missionary go into the house and told him it was to hot to get out, "you do your study and I will read the newspaper",... in the car with the A/C on. So what kind of person does that? There are many more things about him that's why I hate the almost adoring style the way some ex jw's talk about him or taking nicknames as Ray Franz or Frantz, no offence but are you not getting from one cult to another?

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loesch likes C of C

by bigmac in

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fulano

Personally I am not very fond of ridiculing a person this way. I think most people who know Losch will remember him as a kind and reasonable person, the european "touch" to the Bethel pandemonium, likes his schnapps and jokes. Had nothing to do with Ray, who wasn't that mister right and kind at all.

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Are there any ex-missionaries here??

by fulano in

i have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.

and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.

ere other experiences?

fulano

Well ignorance..etc,

I found it not that hard at all to tell you the truth. It was great to not depend on nobody for life, like housing, where to live, etc.

I divorced in 2004, met a nice younger wife and raised together with her here lovely young daughter since 2009, have two companies and a nice life.

The feelings that remain are nostalgic, I read COC the other day and thought about the persons he mentioned, John Barr, such a nice person, Sam Friend, the ex postman, who wrote articles in the Awake, remember the weekends I stayed at his home.

So many people! Where are they? Why did they not "help" you, I know....the hours wouldn't have count.

By the way, missionaries are not that special or interesting at all, most had no education of very little, not that much understanding of the bible ( same as a lot of bethelites) and more interested in there position, square meters room or there annual ticket home.

Of course there were exeptions, like Edith Ester White, from Canada, I lived with here, a real missionary, not kind, nor very friendly but devoted.

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Are there any ex-missionaries here??

by fulano in

i have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.

and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.

ere other experiences?