i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
If they refuse to let you back because you had such eagerness, what does that tell you about the organization?
If they refuse then this will be the last meeting. I have prayed to Jehovah asking for his guidance in that meeting. If they refuse reinstatement, I will know that Jehovah has guided me out. I will not go back. I have sincerely asked Jehovah to show me the way, in or out.
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
Spender, that's not my website. Someone posted the link on this board last year.
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
wow, that was mean R.
If you want back in give up your independant attitude and march with them without questioning anything...be true to them not unto thyself.That's what I don't want to do, that's why I will come clean with the brothers. If they accept it, fine, if they don't oh well.
That’s your problem... you tell them things without them asking.That's true. But I need to be honest with them and myself.
The sooner you're reinstated, the sooner you're gone from here. So good luck!lol.
By all means, Mav, tell the inquisitors about your penchant for apostate boards. I'm sure that they will appreciate your forthrightness and honesty.I have confidence in the brothers, I hope everything goes well.
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
I turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and I’ve been informed that I will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming Wednesday. I’m very excited and happy, but at the same time I want to be careful how I conduct myself. In the last meeting in early March, my reinstatement request was turned down. Basically, I explained to the brothers that I had a problem with my personality and that I give in easily to anger. I also told them that since my disfellowshipping, I have abandoned my immoral ways and had started an honest research of the truth. I need the truth to sink into my heart and I needed to examine the scriptures myself. All three brothers were very nice, but said that I needed to work a bit on my anger and self-control before being reinstated.
I think I have made much progress in being honest with myself and others. I have made big mistakes in myself, even in this board by taking advantage of anonymity, but I feel I have improved personality wise.
I plan to explain to the brothers in the committee what I have been researching. I want to be truthful with them. I want to be reinstated into Jehovah’s organization, but I don’t want to start on the wrong foot by hiding the fact that I have been in this forum researching the truth.
I hope all of you understand my need of Jehovah and his people.
i thought i would pass for those it may concern.
wt has instituted the highest security measures from within.
in the course of the last year security has been installed at the trunk or core line going into and out of all wt facilities.
Hey messenger read John 8:44!
yesterday i posted this: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=25490&site=3.
last night, the po called me, because i had left a message for him.
he was also very nice, and said he would tell the elders what i said, and he would come visit mom on saturday.
Jehovah's Witnesses DO sell magazines for a corporation.
This is a very common accusation from silly apostates. The Watchtower and Awake are very informative. Most of the donations come from the Witnesses themselves. Very seldom do Witnesses mention the donations to the householders. I asked my wife about this and she told me that 95% of the time the witnesses never mentions the donation arrangement.
The truth is that it takes money to print and produce the huge amount of publications that Witnesses use and distribute. The point is that no one is forced to donate by passing a little plate from person to person. If the person's heart compells him to donate he can discreetly go to one of the donation boxes at the rear of any Kingdom Hall and donate.
you might have nobbled the best player in the world, twice, but we will still give you a trouncing in japan.
http://www.itv.com/news/sport12917997.html.
englishman..
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/world/2002/world_cup/teams/argentina/
Marcelo Bielsa must be envied by most managers, because he has it all at his disposal. There is an abundance of talent and skill in the Argentine squad, so much so that they could probably put two teams together that would challenge for the title. The boss normally deploys a 4-4-1-1 formation. He likes to use a mobile attacking midfielder (Claudio Lopez or Ariel Ortega) right behind his striker (Hernan Crespo or Gabriel Batistuta). There is also plenty of creativity behind the front men, with Juan Sebastian Veron, Kily Gonzalez, Javier Zanetti, Marcelo Gallardo or Pablo Aimar all able to turn the game on its head at any given time.
Key Player:
Juan Sebastian Veron. He is known as La Brujita (the little witch) for the way he glides across the whole pitch as if he were riding a broom. He scares his opponents, too, with his magical dribbling skills, elusive dummies and powerful free kicks. He has been a star wherever he has played -- at Boca Juniors, Sampdoria, Parma, Lazio and now Manchester United. He is Argentina's engine, working on overdrive to create chances for the front line. One of the best midfielders in the world.
Argentina is playing in its 13th World Cup. It was champion in 1978 and 1986, and losing finalist in 1930 and 1990. It has won 29 games, drawn 18 and lost 10.
Argentina is my pick to win it all. If Bielsa does not commit the mistake of rotating his squad too much, it should have what it takes to win the cup for the third time. Their midfield is the best in the world, with Diego Simeone covering Veron, and Gonzalez and Zanetti causing havoc on the wings. And with a "matador" like Batistuta or Crespo in the middle, watch out!
hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".
many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.
me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.
The simplest way I can say is 1x1x1=1
ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!
this post is pretty long so i just thought that i'd warn you.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.
w: yes he is but he is only the god of this world.
after all if what these people say is true then anybody that dosent know what it is in deep trouble.
Jbean: I was a child also back in '75. My dad was a Witness and I remember him speaking the C.O. back then about the expectations of 1975. The C.O. was very excited about the year and telling my dad about it, but my dad (1 year baptized at the time) told him that although it sounded interesting that still Jesus had said that "no one knows the hour nor the day". The C.O. agreed and said well if the end comes then that will be great, if it doesn't then we must just wait until Jehovah decides it's the right time. Meanwhile we should just concentrate on the work ahead and preach the good news to all nations. My dad agreed and that was the end of it.
I agree the false expectations confused many and some that where Witnesses merely for the promise of the coming end, finally left. But the true witness that waits on puts full trust in Jehovah withered the storm and kept on the righteous path.
Jerome says:
Oh BTW MavmanJerome, buddy, that’s just apostate propaganda that you’re repeating. The brothers taking the lead are not tyrannical. How would you know, you’ve never been a baptized JW, all you are doing is repeating the negativity and lies of this forum. The Good News is that the Kingdom headed by Jesus Christ will soon wipe out all evildoers from Earth. That certainly IS good news and it’s also good that Jehovah God is giving all of us the chance to change our lives and accept his guidance. He never acts without proper warning. Unfortunately, Satan has lead you straight into this forum to confuse you and to get you as far away as possible from the only way of survival. He has you so concentrated on minor, insignificant things, that you are letting pass the opportunity to be on Jehovah’s side.What exactly is the JW good news? Do you mean that if I dont subject myself to the Watchtowers tyrinacal rule that the Lord will kill me? That dosent seem like such good news to me.
church of free speech: the jehovah's witnesses this month wage the latest in a storied line of cases before the high court.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------.
at the watchtower educational center in patterson, new york, about 50 miles northeast of manhattan, lunchtime for everyone is 12:15. at the vast dining hall, on this day in late autumn, more than 1,000 people will be fed in less than an hour.
jehovah's witnesses, clean cut, well dressed and very multicultural, stream into the dining room, smiling, looking unstressed and unburdened.
Court sees no redemption in limits on Jehovah's Witness solicitations.
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Supreme Court justices on Tuesday criticized and even ridiculed a local Ohio ordinance that requires anyone who goes door to door -- including Jehovah's Witnesses -- to obtain a permit from the mayor beforehand.
Justice Anthony Kennedy called the ordinance "astounding," Justice Antonin Scalia suggested it was the broadest anti-speech ordinance to come before the Court in two centuries and Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said it could be used against Halloween trick-or-treaters or anyone who visits a neighbor to "borrow a cup of sugar."
The justices seemed to shrug off arguments by lawyers for Stratton, Ohio, and the state of Ohio that the ordinance was a harmless and speech-neutral regulation aimed at protecting residents from fraud, robbery and the "annoyance" of unwanted visitors.
The Stratton ordinance, passed in 1998, appeared likely to join a cavalcade of speech restrictions successfully challenged by Jehovah's Witnesses over the past 70 years. The case before the Court was Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York v. Village of Stratton, No. 00-1737.
Paul Polidoro, associate general counsel for the Witnesses, started with a dramatic flourish, knocking on the Court lectern as if he were a Jehovah's Witness knocking on the door of a Stratton residence.
But soon justices were asking him a flurry of questions, confused about the requirements of the ordinance and to which portions the Witnesses objected. Was the requirement that permit applicants give their names the main problem? And where would the names be given -- just back at the mayor's office, or would people with permits be required to give their names as they go door to door?
Polidoro focused at first on name issue, citing McIntyre v. Ohio, the 1995 decision that gave anonymous speech First Amendment protection. Jehovah's Witnesses, he said, had a "long constitutional memory" of the reprisals they could face if their identities are known. But Polidoro also said Witnesses freely identify themselves when asked by residents.
Justice Stephen Breyer asked Polidoro whether his position on anonymous speech would have implications for campaign finance reform -- in which disclosure of the names of campaign donors is required. Polidoro distanced himself from that issue, attacking the Stratton ordinance more broadly as a "censorial weapon."
Chief Justice William Rehnquist was the only member of the Court who sounded sympathetic to the ordinance, recalling news reports of the murder last year of two Dartmouth College professors. Their alleged killers apparently sought out potential robbery victims by going door to door pretending to conduct a survey, Rehnquist noted. He suggested that the government is entitled to "take that into account" in fashioning laws that protect citizens.
The Court's clearest expressions of disdain for the ordinance came when Stratton lawyer Abraham Cantor rose to defend it. Cantor said the village was acting within its police powers to protect privacy and prevent crime.
But soon Justice O'Connor asked about trick-or-treaters, with Justice Scalia chiming in that they, unlike Witnesses, could be categorized as "solicitors." Amid laughter, O'Connor bore in: "Does it cover them? I'm serious." Cantor's answer was unclear.
More than once Scalia quoted the words of the ordinance that refer to the permit as a "privilege." His point was that under the First Amendment, the ability to communicate is a right, not a privilege.
Justices Kennedy and David Souter teamed up to ask Cantor whether a Stratton resident who merely wanted to discuss the town's garbage pickup service with neighbors would have to obtain a permit. "That's a cause, isn't it?" asked Souter.
Cantor did not bolster his argument that the ordinance was content-neutral when he answered, "That's not the type of cause" the ordinance was intended to license.
Ohio Solicitor General David Gormley fared slightly better when he defended the ordinance as a public safety measure aimed only at people who go onto private property, emphasizing that it was justified as a way of getting a minimum of information on the record in case problems crop up later. "It is a very modest restriction," Gormley said.
But whatever success Gormley had at rehabilitating the ordinance seemed to crumble when Justice Scalia said that the safest places on earth were totalitarian regimes. As a price of liberty, Scalia said, the public has learned to put up with the risk of being uncertain about who is knocking on doors.
Tony Mauro is Supreme Court correspondent for American Lawyer Media.
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