Posts by Iconoclast

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Joining the Military. :D

by lucky1rish in

so, i am in my early 20's.

i'm a firefighter, an emt, and hazmat technician (those guys that take care of chemical accidents), and i'm wanting more of a challenge in my line of work.

i've always loved saving people, i keep calm in frantic situations and i love the challenges.

Iconoclast

And it may be added that our (Lucky Irish is my bro) father FREAKS the fugg out and health issues so any heart attack enducing advice need not apply.

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Joining the Military. :D

by lucky1rish in

so, i am in my early 20's.

i'm a firefighter, an emt, and hazmat technician (those guys that take care of chemical accidents), and i'm wanting more of a challenge in my line of work.

i've always loved saving people, i keep calm in frantic situations and i love the challenges.

Were you ever DF'd? For what and how long?

by QuestioningEverything in

i was df'd when i was 20 or so for fornication.

i got reinstated when i was 24. i had a son during that time and i was worried about us if we didn't get back to the fold and 'protection' of the organization.

.

Iconoclast

I haven't been yet but it's a-comin! LOL

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Just a question

by Iconoclast in

i've posed this to my parents lately.

my brother is getting married to a non-jaydub and they keep telling him he's living in sin with her and that he needs to confess to the elders that he's been having sex with her since he has been dating her for 4 years.

in their logic, you can't date someone for so long without doing the nasty.

Iconoclast

Not even the elders can counter that with me. I can't get an answer at all on it.

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Outrageous Omission Blood

by Marvin Shilmer in

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outrageous omission blood.

today i uploaded an article i have worked on for some time.

it expounds and illustrates a revolting habit watchtower has of refraining from wide distribution of life-saving information clearly and promptly.

Iconoclast

Why would they hide this from the R&F unless it was to cover their asses in court should someone die of lack of medical care?

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Just a question

by Iconoclast in

i've posed this to my parents lately.

my brother is getting married to a non-jaydub and they keep telling him he's living in sin with her and that he needs to confess to the elders that he's been having sex with her since he has been dating her for 4 years.

in their logic, you can't date someone for so long without doing the nasty.

Iconoclast

I've posed this to my parents lately. My brother is getting married to a non-Jaydub and they keep telling him he's living in sin with her and that he needs to confess to the elders that he's been having sex with her since he has been dating her for 4 years. In their logic, you can't date someone for so long without doing the nasty. Now, they have no proof of their allegations (although being true) and think he should fess up to his supposed wrong doings.

We have a sister that moved in with her boyfriend but, because she wasn't baptised, they have accepted her way of life. They don't like it but they accept it.

So when my dad called me to again complain about my brother's choice of wife, I asked him what the difference was between my sister and my brother. His answer was that my brother was baptised.

I asked him, "So is it different in God's eyes that my sister is baptised and my brother is not? If the Big A came tomorrow, will he show more mercy on my sister than my brother?"

He had no answer. None of them do. I've been bombarded with questions about his lifestyle with his fiance and I ask that question all the time, even to elders. They all give me the silence stop.

If this is the case, how can they validate the use of disfellowshipping? They can talk to someone who was raised as a witness and "living in sin" that wasn't baptised and, in their eyes, will die in the Big A, the same outcome as someone who has been baptised doing the same damn thing. But they refuse to talk to one that's taken the dip?

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YOUTUBE - Kingdom Hall Of JW's

by elder-schmelder in

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these are the best video's that i have seen on youtube.

who makes these?

do they post on here?.

Iconoclast

I think the best one is the "Faithful in Least" video. God! I completely forgot how much stuff was forbidden!

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Something that has helped me understand why people continue to go to church

by JimmyPage in

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the more i realized how ridiculous religion as a whole is the more i wondered why so many people even bother to continue going to church.. but someone on this board made a comment recently that has stuck with me- it's something that i could never relate to because i was brought up a jw.

and maybe many people here have trouble relating too for the same reason.. the comment was simple: people go to church because they enjoy it.

it was a new thought to me because as a jw meetings have always been such a bland and boring affair.

Iconoclast

Church of the Kumbaya is very popular these days....

You mean since 1604? That's a long "these days". Maybe your generations lap each other.

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Something that has helped me understand why people continue to go to church

by JimmyPage in

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the more i realized how ridiculous religion as a whole is the more i wondered why so many people even bother to continue going to church.. but someone on this board made a comment recently that has stuck with me- it's something that i could never relate to because i was brought up a jw.

and maybe many people here have trouble relating too for the same reason.. the comment was simple: people go to church because they enjoy it.

it was a new thought to me because as a jw meetings have always been such a bland and boring affair.

Iconoclast

Can you really say and with full conviction say you believe in the power of the Eucharist and Consubstantiation, that a human blood sacrifice 2000 years opened the portal to another dimension.

Yes and no. But that's the beauty of Episcopal Church. You have the freedom to choose because your path to God is personal one and the Church doesn't dictate it. I do believe in Jesus. I do believe he died for our sins. I do believe in the Grace of God. The whole portal thing? No.

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Something that has helped me understand why people continue to go to church

by JimmyPage in

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friends

the more i realized how ridiculous religion as a whole is the more i wondered why so many people even bother to continue going to church.. but someone on this board made a comment recently that has stuck with me- it's something that i could never relate to because i was brought up a jw.

and maybe many people here have trouble relating too for the same reason.. the comment was simple: people go to church because they enjoy it.

it was a new thought to me because as a jw meetings have always been such a bland and boring affair.

Iconoclast

I love the church of my youth, the Episcopal Church. It's a thinking people's church and it's very spiritual. They welcome you and your diverse opinions and beliefs. They are huge on outreach. The services are meaningful as well as beautiful.

This is the church I have chosen, Episcopal. So no, it's isn't that I've gone from one book study to the next. I think you have no idea what you are talking about, designs. And communion isn't a big spiritual ecstacy. Its the fact that I'm worthy to partake contrary to being told that I'm a nobody and am not worthy. Not all of us want nor wish to be atheists.