No, it's not going to work unless they got doubts, you were there as I, we both know Jehovah's Witnesses are chosen for their "blind obedience" and unwillingness to think!
The Watchtower once had a quote "There are non so blinder than those who refuse to see!" African Proverb
i counted zero, can anyone else verify the watchtower's new aid to instruct judicial matters never mentioned our lord and saviour jesus christ, the messiah?.
or for my deist and atheist friends, did they mention the name of jesus of nazareth?
thank you friends!.
Smiddy, I posted the link on another thread, please post your comments on how you think they handled badgering Robby like a D.A., they are creeps!
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New International Version (NIV)
7 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord:2 “Stand at the gate of theLord’s house and there proclaim this message:
“‘Hear the word of the Lord, all you people of Judah who come through these gates to worship the Lord. 3 This is what theLord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Reform your waysand your actions, and I will let you live in this place. 4 Do not trust in deceptive words and say, “This is the temple of theLord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord!” 5 If you really change your ways and your actions and deal with each other justly, 6 if you do not oppress the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow and do not shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not follow other gods to your own harm,7 then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your ancestors for ever and ever.8 But look, you are trusting in deceptive words that are worthless.
9 “‘Will you steal and murder,commit adultery and perjury,[a]burn incense to Baal and follow other gods you have not known, 10 and then come and stand before me in this house,which bears my Name, and say, “We are safe”—safe to do all these detestable things?11 Has this house, which bears my Name, become a den of robbers to you? But I have been watching! declares theLord.
12 “‘Go now to the place in Shiloh where I first made a dwelling for my Name, and see what I did to it because of the wickedness of my people Israel. 13 While you were doing all these things, declares theLord, I spoke to you again and again, but you did not listen; I called you, but you did not answer. 14 Therefore, what I did to Shiloh I will now do to the house that bears my Name, the temple you trust in, the place I gave to you and your ancestors. 15 I will thrust you from my presence, just as I did all your fellow Israelites, the people of Ephraim.’
16 “So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. 17 Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven.They pour out drink offeringsto other gods to arouse my anger. 19 But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?
20 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: My angerand my wrath will be pouredout on this place—on man and beast, on the trees of the field and on the crops of your land—and it will burn and not be quenched.
21 “‘This is what the LordAlmighty, the God of Israel, says: Go ahead, add your burnt offerings to your other sacrifices and eat the meat yourselves! 22 For when I brought your ancestors out of Egypt and spoke to them, I did not just give them commandsabout burnt offerings and sacrifices, 23 but I gave them this command: Obey me, and I will be your God an
Malachi 1:8 Jehovah ask's the False Religionist to "Shut the Kingdom Hall Door, I don't want to all you piousneers pretending to worship me as you trample the weak and the poor." Jehovah calls these people worse than a Whore because a whore charge's for her services, these fake religious hack's are giving it up to the Devil's people for free!
Disobedience of the Priests 6 “A son honors his father, and a servant his master. But if I am a father, where is My honor? And if I am a master, where is your fear of Me? says Yahweh of Hosts to you priests, who despise My name.” Yet you ask: “How have we despised Your name?” 7 “By presenting defiled food on My altar.” You ask: “How have we defiled You?” When you say: “The Lord’s table is contemptible.” 8 “When you present a blind animal for sacrifice, is it not wrong? And when you present a lame or sick animal, is it not wrong? Bring it to your governor! Would he be pleased with you or show you favor?” asks the Lord of Hosts. 9 “And now ask for God’s favor. Will He be gracious to us? Since this has come from your hands, will He show any of you favor?” asks the Lord of Hosts. 10 “I wish one of you would shut the temple doors, so you would no longer kindle a useless fire on My altar! I am not pleased with you,” says the Lord of Hosts, “and I will accept no offering from your hands. 11 “For My name will be great among the nations, from the rising of the sun to its setting. Incense[e] and pure offerings will be presented in My name in every place because My name will be great among the nations,”[f] says Yahweh of Hosts. 12 But you are profaning it when you say: “The Lord’s table is defiled, and its product, its food, is contemptible.” 13 You also say: “Look, what a nuisance!” “And you scorn[g] it,”[h] says the Lord of Hosts. “You bring stolen,[i] lame, or sick animals. You bring this as an offering! Am I to accept that from your hands?” asks the Lord.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.
it's on john cedar's blog, please comment if you think it's good or bad!.
jehovah asked the religious creeps to "please shut the kingdom hall door because i am sick of looking in your worthless service!.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked
It's on John Cedar's Blog, please comment if you think it's good or bad!
It's Religious Food like these videos that show how Malachi 1:5-10 show how close the Watchtower and the Ancient Jews of the 400 BC area are alike!
Jehovah asked the Religious Creeps to "Please shut the Kingdom Hall Door because I am sick of looking in your worthless service!
New International Version (NIV)
7 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord:2 “Stand at the gate of theLord’s house and there proclaim this message:
“‘Hear the word of the Lord, all you people of Judah who come through these gates to worship the Lord. 3 This is what theLord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Reform your waysand your actions, and I will let you live in this place. 4 Do not trust in deceptive words and say, “This is the temple of theLord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord!” 5 If you really change your ways and your actions and deal with each other justly, 6 if you do not oppress the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow and do not shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not follow other gods to your own harm,7 then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your ancestors for ever and ever.8 But look, you are trusting in deceptive words that are worthless.
9 “‘Will you steal and murder,commit adultery and perjury,[a]burn incense to Baal and follow other gods you have not known, 10 and then come and stand before me in this house,which bears my Name, and say, “We are safe”—safe to do all these detestable things?11 Has this house, which bears my Name, become a den of robbers to you? But I have been watching! declares theLord.
12 “‘Go now to the place in Shiloh where I first made a dwelling for my Name, and see what I did to it because of the wickedness of my people Israel. 13 While you were doing all these things, declares theLord, I spoke to you again and again, but you did not listen; I called you, but you did not answer. 14 Therefore, what I did to Shiloh I will now do to the house that bears my Name, the temple you trust in, the place I gave to you and your ancestors. 15 I will thrust you from my presence, just as I did all your fellow Israelites, the people of Ephraim.’
16 “So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. 17 Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven.They pour out drink offeringsto other gods to arouse my anger. 19 But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?
20 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: My angerand my wrath will be pouredout on this place—on man and beast, on the trees of the field and on the crops of your land—and it will burn and not be quenched.
21 “‘This is what the LordAlmighty, the God of Israel, says: Go ahead, add your burnt offerings to your other sacrifices and eat the meat yourselves! 22 For when I brought your ancestors out of Egypt and spoke to them, I did not just give them commandsabout burnt offerings and sacrifices, 23 but I gave them this command: Obey me, and I will be your God an
Malachi 8:
8 “When you present a blind animal for sacrifice, is it not wrong? And when you present a lame or sick animal, is it not wrong? Bring it to your governor! Would he be pleased with you or show you favor?” asks the Lord of Hosts. 9 “And now ask for God’s favor. Will He be gracious to us? Since this has come from your hands, will He show any of you favor?” asks the Lord of Hosts. 10 “I wish one of you would shut the temple doors, so you would no longer kindle a useless fire on My altar! I am not pleased with you,” says the Lord of Hosts, “and I will accept no offering from your hands.
11 “For My name will be great among the nations, from the rising of the sun to its setting. Incense[e]and pure offerings will be presented in My name in every place because My name will be great among the nations,”[f] says Yahweh of Hosts.
joined this website in july 2010 and havent looked back...so happy to be watchtower free!!!!
(i was born feb 16th 1983).. i'll be 31 years old tomorrow and i feel indifferent about it.
as usually my mom said your gonna be 31 but she didnt say happy birthday.
HAPPY 31ST BIRTHDAY GIRL! YOUR LOOKING GOOD AND THE BEST OF YOUR YEARS ARE AHEAD OF YOU! I LOVED MY 30s AND WOMEN ARE MORE ACTIVE I HEAR! I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR 30S TOO!
WHAT KIND OF BIRTHDAY CAKE ARE YOU CRAVING? SORRY IF THE PHOTO DOES NOT COME THROUGH!
do you know of anyone who sucessfully dedicated time to charity without getting bad mouthed by witness elders?
we had a sister in creepside congregation who got a lot of lip when she was working for the food bank for free.
the jehovah's witnesses elders hinted, used the watchtower study to say "jehovah's people are ambassadors to satan's world and know the real solution is god's kingdom".
hamster: That's a great real life experience, the amount of charities turned down by the Jehovah's Witnesses is almost all except for the "World Wide Work", "Local Needs", "Congregation X's monthly cost because they built their Kingdom Hall during a great Economic down-turn."
Long-hair-girl, Alan Greenspan said during his time of running the Fed, "anyone who wants to keep a good job is going to have to have two degrees or three because we have entered a time when wages will continue to plummet for unskilled workers and benefits (health care, Pensions) are going to be paid to the highest educated with the most pratical experience.
In Dubia, CNN showed window washers going up the biggest building in the World, the wages are $600 a month to clean those windows, it takes a year to complete cleaning those windows. Employers are no longer providing pensions, the Federal and State Governments are dumping 'defined benefit" pension plans and eventually the Social Nets are going to crumble too. JWs rely on Social Security and Medicaid once they hit retirement age. I know a few JWs who worked "Under-the-Table' and only get $890 a month from Social Security and $88 from California's Medicaid money. Why did the JWs not pay taxes, how come they are the first to hold their hands open for a check when they put no time, work in to the System? They are truly Satanic, don't you think people who evaded taxes and hid their income don't deserve to eat?
JWs are not notorious for adopting kids from Foster Care, they claim to have a Spiritual Paradise but they are sure stingy sharing it with others who don't glow like their Satanic Glowing Wings. I hate seeing them at the Food Bank and feel they are horrible people for taking the food they would not lift a finger to get. They can starve to death for all I care, you want to attack a system that takes care of it's people, than go and rely on the Watchtower for handouts. The Catholic Church ran some great Food Programs with Fundamental Churches, the JWs were the religion coming in to these refugee camps holding out their hands and the Watchtower showed up with Spiritual Food since the Red Cross was feeding them like Jesus Christ feed the hungry ones!
They make me sick!
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/shepherding_instructional_suicidal_widow.avi.
i just watched beginning of the recently leaked video produced by the wtbts allegedly instructing elders how to treat jws contemplating suicide.
i am so apalled i cannot even begin to describe it!.
Why do you think these videos came forward? Information flows only when problems emerge, the majority of Elder Body's would be like Experience 1.
Most of the Elders and their wives are not going to want to spend time with Jehovah's Witnesses with unusual mental problems (Most have mental illness) and suicide is where the JW Elders are grossly incompetent. We lost four Witnesses to suicide one year in our Circuit, the Elders never called the police to have the Witness who told them "I am going to kill myself" committed with a 51-50 charge. I think the Elders and Circuit Overseer deep down are too emotionally empty and the ones who try to play Psychiatrist end up getting in deep shit when the CO finds out the brother spent too much time with a emotionally disturbed person!
i counted zero, can anyone else verify the watchtower's new aid to instruct judicial matters never mentioned our lord and saviour jesus christ, the messiah?.
or for my deist and atheist friends, did they mention the name of jesus of nazareth?
thank you friends!.
The answer, Jesus was not mentioned once!
I was creeped out when the Elder looked up toward's the Heavens like Jehovah is going to listen to the same group who disfellowshiped Robby for not willing to dump his pregnant girl!
The Elders were angry Robby was not willling to be cold to her, what message does that send to Witnesses who inseminate a female? They did extend YHWH's name a little weird, the end of Suicide Blonde's Episosde, they really thought their Pseudo Watchtower knowledge would help a sister who is thinking of killing herself and not ask her to get help with psychologist or therapist. These same elders are the type who allowed a brother to hang himself in Santa Maria because they did not want to call the police and do a 51-50 hold. The CO prayed with him, the elders shared the Bible but anyone who was trained in therapy could see he was going to kill himself and they left this brother alone in 2011.
This Video needs to be saved to as many computers as possible, the Witness Religion is not trying to go Internet like College Classes started back in 1996 when Internet Programs were made available. Now we can become a professional Elder by watching "out of touch" men who worship the Watchotower and say Jehooovaahs name funny.
please make one sentence each from the following sets of facts:.
1) a man: he's cynical/he's old/he's a bachelor/he's grizzled.
2) a boy: he owns a schwinn bicycle/he's 10 years old/the bike is blue/it's a christmas gift/it has three speeds.
Complex, are you a college English teacher? You have your "Heath Hanbook" memorized, silly rabbit!
i know for me it was soon after lurking here for awhile and reading some threads on the issue.
i remenber when i tore it into little tiny pieces.
it felt so liberating..
I never filled one out, not kidding you!
i believe it is mostly guilt.
many witnesses pioneer or "reach out" in the religion because they feel guilty.. they may feel they aren't doing enough.
they may have secretly "sinned" against rules imposed by the organization.
I don't know about you but the preception given from the Circuit Overseers and men ranking higher was nobody was worth Salvation, only the members at Bethel who demonstrated they were at Jehovah's House like the Levites were Saved.
How often did you feel you and your family were not measuring up the their policy and we were or might "not be Saved" while the Governing Body were looked to as being the men who were assured their Salvation?
For decades I heard Company Men say "Once you think you are Saved you allowed Satan to enter in to your life!" So, according to those Company Men, never assume Jesus Christ has the power to forgive your sins the Jehovah's Witnesses bind up on earth and keep locked in their safes o earth! Jehovah said he would cast our sins so far away in the Ocean and wash our blood stained robes red, if we would obey him. The JW Leadership love to avoid these concepts and especially (John 3:16), it's not fair Jehovah would give Eternal Life to people who don't follow all the man-made rules!
