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  Jehovah’s Witnesses — An Organization?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  jehovahs witnesses an organization?.

  today i added a new article to my blog addressing a particularly dirty trick played on jehovahs witnesses.

  it has to do with watchtowers legal maneuvering to place and keep its harsh religious shunning practice beyond reach of secular law enforcement.

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  Just had to post to your blog about this.............living thru the circle of deceit as we speak....
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  Stories of the bible

  by jambon1 in

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  seriously, do people really believe that these events actually happened?

  or that they are in any way justified oir right?.

  a guy and his small family gather up severy single living animal, bird, insect, puts them in a huge boat which saves mankind & all animal life.at the word of a prophet, a few bears tear apart half a dozen kids for calling a guy a baldy bastard.

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  Yea the Tower of Babel story is really telling of how insecure god is that these men try to build a tower to the heavens. He should have let them go ahead. Eventually they would have run out of breathable air and froze to death had they built high enough. I must be smarter than him if i know that.

  Why doesn't he step in to stop all the outer space exploration these days. Surely that would be much more of a threat.
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Ok just a couple things to add to the controversy,...This book was REPRINTED in 2001 and entitled "The Way of the Gladiator".....here is a review of reprinted book which adds to my contention that this book is INDEED fiction:

  This book is a reprint of "Those About to Die," which was published back in the late 50's, when Mannix was in his heyday as a writer. I came to know Daniel P. Mannix through his many articles for the 50's publication "True: The Man's Magazine." He was a competent writer on many subjects, and his stories were always entertaining. "The Way of the Gladiator" is nothing if it is not entertaining. But it is NOT a piece of sober history.
  
  The book is not so much historical fiction as it is fictionalized history. Historical fiction is a make believe story told against the backdrop of historical events. Mannix takes historical events and relates them in "documentary" fashion, but unabashedly invents details and descriptions which, if they are accurate, are accurate only by accident.
  
  If you understand from the outset what you are dealing with, "The Way of the Gladiator" can be great reading. If you're looking for a well researched, scholarly study of gladiators, check out Michael Grant's "Gladiators."

  ALSO.....In the WT library I just uncovered a true gem regarding the author.......they actually referred to him as a HISTORIAN (TEACHER lr. Ch 27)...which no-where in his WIKI bio does it mention him as a "historian"...

  I think I can write an article for use on jwfacts / survey / struggle / others....which will appeal to someone still "in" and help them see how wrong and hypocritical it is for WT to use this reference.

  I'm just sayin.....
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  Just Got My Memorial Invite

  by Tater-T in

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  so hey everyone i knew i couldn't type out the experince i just had at the door.. the video ain't much better.. but i hope you enjoy.

  this just happened... at least i didn't feel guilty after this visit... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivu6c3yc7vu.

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  Go and sit in front. Grab all the crackers and chew them down then gulp down the whole glass of red. Then get up and leave before it comes to its full end
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  THIS JUST ON CNN: POPE CONVERTS TO JEHOVAH WITNESS AND TELLS EVERYONE TO!!!

  by Greybeard in

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  sorry i couldn't resist!

  lol.

  sorry if this joke has already been told here :-/.

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  i used the example in the bible of Pauls conversion being equivalent to the pope resigning and the GB inviting him to take charge of all the teaching. I said to 2 elders that I didn't trust Pauls writings any more than Jews did back then. Finished with if bible was inspired then Paul would never have wrote any "opinions" like he did. It would be pure gods directed (dictated) writing. <<<blank stares from elders>>>
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  Researchers predict the End of Religion-Forbes

  by jam in

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  a team of researchers has developed a mathematical model.

  that predicts the end of religion in nine countries.. www.

  forbes.

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  #1 target has to be the WT...............I will help
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  Is claiming your baptism null and void an exit plan?

  by awakening in

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  i have read some of you talking about baptism not being a legaly binding contract as, for most it was undertaken as a minor.

  has anyone successfuly nulled their baptism and exited free of consequence?.

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  When i sat with 2 elders 2 weeks ago I mentioned that I was NOT recommended for baptism back when I was 16 by last elder to do questions with me.

  I said I did NOT answer YES to two baptism questions because during talk I realized I had not said a prayer of dedication.

  I said I was afraid and humiliated and too scared to step out of line and not go get dunked so I did.

  All true events = my baptism is null and void,,,,elder manual says elders CANNOT override...it is between God and me.

  I just don't know if I should write a letter to make it official, I don't want that to lead to sanctioned shunning by elder body.
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  I like all the discussion. Isn't it nice to have open and free dialogue without fear of WT labeling any of us apostate and DF-ing us?

  That said, until I get this book in hand and read it, for sure it can be said book was written to sensationalize gory details of Rome. It also can be said author did NOT eyewitness the events he wrote about. So there must be references. As said, why is WT using a book like this when they would condemn anyone who went to see "Gladiator" or "Passion of the Christ" or even asking Ridley Scott or Mel Gibson to be a credible source of historical accuracy to be used in WT publication?

  They made a statement of fact in paragraph 16 and used a gory novel to support the statement of fact. There has to be some reference to support statement used. I will dig until I find the answer but WT was stupid to grab a snippet like that to use in a study article. Or they just think no one will question anything they say or do.
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Once I have the actual book in hand...if it is factual and based on research there will be references from his research listed in the book. If no refrences this needs its own topic heading on jwfacts dot com / jwsurvey dot com...etc. I volunteer to write the article if they will post it
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  @2+2=5..I'm sure he was notified by elders about my police report I made for their harassment...I think he was trying to analyze me with all his qualifications he has earned filling out monthly time slips...