Posts by TDaze

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Is immorality escalating?

by jworld in

i got the convention update from my mom, who attended this past weekend.

sounds like the society made the claim that immorality is escalating at a faster clip.

is that true?

TDaze

Does that mean morals are largely subjective then? I'll never forget the interview with the Aryan Brotherhood prison gang member who said, "I've got morals, just not yours." Where's the line drawn?

Pretty much subjective, yes. There are plenty of societies that operate on way different moral standards than we do. The philosopher Sam Harris has given what I think is a good rule of thumb: "Imagine a situation worse than the worst hell you can think of. Everything is bad. Now you might be saying that there's a silver lining somewhere, but I wouldn't know what you'd be talking about. This called The Worst Possible Scenario For Everyone. Anything that moves away from that situation can be called 'right' and anything that moves towards that scenarion can be called 'wrong'.

The guy has written a book on this subject. It's called 'The Moral Landscape'. If you enjoy the subject of morality, this is probably a good book to start with.

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what was your "back burner?"

by stillin in

when i was studying in the truth book i laid aside quite a few questions, feeling that i was learning something important, and that those "nagging questions" would be answered in due course.

most of those questions have gone unanswered because i was led along, like a stupid pig with a ring in his nose, by other pseudo-questions of, really, non-importance.

i've had problems with conforming, if that is the word, with "correct speak" in the organization, and it has been apparant to most of the people i've known over the years.

TDaze

What did it for me was the argument of "We're right because God says so, and you can know God says so because we're right."

Then I studied up on evolution and dropped everything else like a sack of potatoes.

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Get your peanuts, popcorn, and WT CDs here! A crash course on file sharing

by RayPublisher in

some have been talking about not having the latest version of the wt library.

(as of mid-2011) it is an actively traded torrent found here:.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6117399.

TDaze

It's also freely available on Usenet in A LOT of languages. Not only English, but I can also see French, Dutch, Polish, German, Hungarian, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian and Spanish.

In fact, someone has uploaded a portion less than 24 hours ago.

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After leaving Jw's did you go into another religion or serv. god ur own way?

by average joe in

i am just curious if you guys left jw's and now worship in some other relgion or worship in your own way?

have you sworn off organized religion ?

if you have not sworn off organized religion then i wonder what relgion seems to be the right one for you guys?

TDaze

Go to another church?

Prfrt. I stopped believing altogether. Really, going from one religion to another (be it organised or not) is just jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

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Faith strengthening arkeological videos about Red Sea crossing, Sodom, Mount Sinai etc

by Kosonen in

here you have it:.

www.youtube.com/sygnate.

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TDaze

You'd think that people who have left the JWs would be a bit more skeptical about bullshit claims about stuff like the exodus and the flood...

I like how they just assume that Imhotep was Joseph and go on from there. What a crock of shit this is.

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WITNESSES- WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU ARE THE TRUE RELIGION?

by mrquik in

TDaze

Everyone who has been attempting to give evidence, has done it wrong.

It starts out with defining what a "god" is, and proving its existence. Then, perhaps, we can start talking about whose god it is, or even if it has the personality traits you say it has.

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Why the stunning lack of accurate, historical evidence for Jesus Christ?

by nicolaou in

by no means a new topic for discussion but always worth a fresh airing .

i'd suggest that the 1st century was quite a well documented time.

we have lots of historical evidence for important people who actually existed.

TDaze

Jesus personally speaks (with an audible voice) to some of our members, here.

I think they need to go see a psychiatrist. Hearing voices does not sound very healthy.

Yet, this lowly Person somehow managed to change the course of history - even the calendar.

Actually Jesus didn't do shit. It was Emperor Constantine who used this weird Christian cult to gain political power. It was also a catholic Pope that signed the calendar based on Jesus' birthday into use... in the year 1582.

Whenever we write a date, we should think of that.

Perhaps, when you write down a date, you might want to think of what the gods Janus, Februus, Mars, Maiyesta and Juno have done for us. These gods must have done so much for mankind, we even based the names of about half of our months on them!

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It seems to me that Jesus' message to US is simpiler than previously thought

by sabastious in

the gospel's story of jesus christ, allegedly based on true events, has spurred many different varieties of thought and action.

some have furthered his message and some have disserved it whether they believe in his divinity or not.

if the gospels were a movie (i have never seen any of the christ films) i would have this to say about him:.

TDaze

I don't know, "play nice" doesn't seem to be a very complicated message. Unless you start complicating it with all the supernatural hocus pocus and afterlife bullshit, of course.

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After leaving the JW's, why would anybody seek another religion

by Star tiger in

after such a traumatic experience in the jehovah's witness religion and reasoning on all other versions of religion, why do so many just jump ship into another religion offering the world but still delivering nothing!.

appreciate your comments,.

star tiger.

TDaze

Ziddina pretty much nailed it. Lots of religions make you dependant on it.

What I also find interesting is that there are people who do not go far enough with their questioning. I thought it was only reasonable that if I could be wrong about one thing, I could be wrong about plenty of other related things. So I threw out everything religious, including the belief in a god. Sure it's hard, but the result is better. The Christian god does not exist. Get over it.

Really, leaving the JWs for any other religion is just trading one poison for another.

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Is it just the JW's who say treat yourself like poo

by Star tiger in

sorry for the profanity, but i feel that this religion says totally deny yourself, and ignore any ideas or hopes you have for your life, how do we get out of this mentality, i believe that this religion started my ocd symptoms and has caused me a huge amount of of personal discomfort.. .

appreciate your comments,.

star tiger.

TDaze

Star tiger, have you seen a doc about your OCD? They've spent years in university for this kind of shit, you might want to ask them instead of some people on the internets.

As for your thread title: No, not just the JWs. Many religions tell you that you are sick and that you need to think of yourself as such just so you can buy the medicine they have to sell.