edit: sold your soul! - to the organization ! dont waste your life! its unnessasary. doing gods will is simple loving others like yourself. Dont need to go through a complete life of misery.
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(Belated) Hello
by ABibleStudent in(belated) hello everyone,.
i joined this forum and the jwsf in june/july10.
i have posted 46 times on the jwn before realizing that new members traditionally introduce themselves and i have not.
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(Belated) Hello
by ABibleStudent in(belated) hello everyone,.
i joined this forum and the jwsf in june/july10.
i have posted 46 times on the jwn before realizing that new members traditionally introduce themselves and i have not.
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hey! and welcome! great to meet you.
Likewise i am a bible student and new to these forums. i came here to speak to people who were much more experienced in this so called truth, and have had some awesome feedback. people here are very helpful, a few simple words from them can save your life...and by that i mean if you baptize yourself into this organization, youve practically souled your soul already.
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trying to reach teenage daughter
by Aussie Oz inhad some interesting chats with my daughter today about whether she believes everything she hears at the meetings and reads in the watchtower.. turns out she does.. until i pressed on a few subjects... turns out she does not think worldly people are bad, that the wt is wrong for blanket statements about how evil they all are, that she does not think it is right that they have failed predicting the end for over a hundred years and disagrees when they keep pushing the end,.
and i find this all rather alarming!.
because although some lights are firing (and i mean that in a nice way!).
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any updates oz?
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Everything is "Satan" ... Now what?
by roxanesophia infirstly, i'm a study who initially believed every word of the jw's.
figured "no other religion takes the time and effort to help people understand the bible by publishing the watchtower and the other literature" not realizing that all it does is pick and choose scriptures to suit whatever sentence they'd just written, which can be done using any book, not just the bible.
i felt foolish, after that.. .
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Hello! I am in the same situation as YOU! I know exactly how you feel! You know what i did? i took al my books and everyhting i had to do with the oragiztion and took it to my study conductor and told him im FINISHED WITH IT.
After a long talk , and hearing this same verse over and over and over and over and over and OVER again: P[roverbs 3:5,6. VERY popular verse. They interpret this as to ntot think on your own and listen to God, and God is telling you what we tell you etc.
All i would adivse is, listen to what people say here, who are very expericnced in it who know all about it.
I have been told by people here on this forum, Go with your guy feeling and do what YOU beileve to be right.
I am going to do exactly that. My gut feeling tells me this isnt right. I have had SO MANY things in this organization, which was like wow moments for me and like wow they really have truth here. But then what about all the doubts? and when people liek people on these forums here are telling you the REAL truth about it? its the devil himself! were all the devil! LOL honsetly! What rubbish. Were people just liek they are not the devil.
Go with your gut instinct on what you beileve to be right. Im not going to say go ahead or not, hey im not baptized even myself, and i did have intentions of it, but recently, learning more about these lies, i have no intention whatso ever to do with this organiztion.
God speed!
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Still going strong
by Lehaa inhaven't been around here for ages, thought i'd pop back in and say hi.. my hubbie met sass my frass over the weekend.
i've never met her b4, small world thing, her friends are his friends, etc, etc.. .
funny how things happen, anyway he comes home telling me about this ex dub he met and i should add her on facebook, after adding her i realized i knew her from here.. well i've been spending the last few hours on here looking at old posts.
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sounds excellent! im in the course of leaving this faith behind me, i have been going regularly for about a year but i noticed a lot of flaws and control. I have mixed emotions but the people here are very helpful, and reading your post only confims just what i thought! Well done too!
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2nd attempt - Big AHA moment for me !
by Lozhasleft inwontleave posted this on another thread:.
jesus is truth and when an organization tells you they're "truth", they're calling christ a liar unless they are an exact representation of him.. wow !!!!
of course...how could i have never noted this???
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nice post! a big aha moment indeed! how about this! Matthew Chapter 24: Jesus says SEVERAL TIMES, over and over and over again, he just cant emphasize enough, "see that you are not misled! MANY will come on the basis of my name saying they are the christ hes there or here!" or however it is put. you get what i mean! Isnt this Faith EXACTLY what Jesus was talking about?!?!?!
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trying to reach teenage daughter
by Aussie Oz inhad some interesting chats with my daughter today about whether she believes everything she hears at the meetings and reads in the watchtower.. turns out she does.. until i pressed on a few subjects... turns out she does not think worldly people are bad, that the wt is wrong for blanket statements about how evil they all are, that she does not think it is right that they have failed predicting the end for over a hundred years and disagrees when they keep pushing the end,.
and i find this all rather alarming!.
because although some lights are firing (and i mean that in a nice way!).
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wow, Oz i really feel your pain. Im only a bible studentmyself and i see many flaws in this faith. Im unsure wether to carry it on, but it seems doubtful that i will :) i have been studying a little over a year now.
I would suggest (as friendly advice) to challenege her about somethings as you said you have. Keep at that, and if she really does love the bible and reads it and knows it well, you can tell her this scripture: Proverbs 27:6. Try to get your head around that. she probably wont, until you explain it to her.
Proverbs 27:6 basically means, that the wounds inflicted by a lover are faithful, (it hurts, but your doing it to help her for the greater good) and the second part of the verse then says that but the kisses of a hater are things to be entreated. So that basically means that you could quite easily just say to her, oh its ok, just carry on dear. do as you please. Which is obviously wrong. Im sure she will understand that you are doing this to help her see the truth... behind the truth.
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can somebody shed some light on me?
by psychiatric inill introduce myself.
my name is darren, im 23 and live in england.. im having some problems with the "truth".. to start it off and to keep it as minimal as possible because i dont want to bore your minds, i was raised with my whole family as a roman catholic.. after moving around the world, even as far as new zealand, i got myself in a terrible way in guernsey channel islands.
i met some old friends of mine who were into all sorts related to the "crime scene" and i got myself involved with drugs and the like.. i began a spiralling into depression and cutting my arms to feel alive.
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Wow Marie you certainly have a lot ofsense in your post. and yes i definetly will make my bible reading a daily thing, i do now, bbut the problem i keep getting is, what bible do i use! so many seem to be... shall we say tampered with? its confusing.
again i thankyou all for your responses! there are many links and books here that have been highly reccommended, i will defiently look into that.
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can somebody shed some light on me?
by psychiatric inill introduce myself.
my name is darren, im 23 and live in england.. im having some problems with the "truth".. to start it off and to keep it as minimal as possible because i dont want to bore your minds, i was raised with my whole family as a roman catholic.. after moving around the world, even as far as new zealand, i got myself in a terrible way in guernsey channel islands.
i met some old friends of mine who were into all sorts related to the "crime scene" and i got myself involved with drugs and the like.. i began a spiralling into depression and cutting my arms to feel alive.
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wow this is all so intriguing. I cant thankyou all enough. All of my doubts about this organization are not of my own. Im so glad there are like minded people. i dont want to admit this, but i almost feel brainwashed this last year of my life. Everytime i hear bad things about the organization i always kept saying its the devil, he doesnt want me to have a relationship with God.
but this is what they have done to me i guess. I am very put off by this faith. There are certain aspects of it which i think are correct, but then i suppose thats how the worse lies are, when you mix truth with lies. And "nugget" i like how you put your words and thoughts across.
I wouldlove to learn more about the bible and God himself, but i dont know where to go! Where is the right place! so many religions out there claiming to have it! and Jesus himself kept on saying to be on the guard of this, so as to not be misled.
I will continue my search. And once again...thankyou all.... my suspicions on the WTS are just as i thought they are.
I thought it right to come here off of my own initiative so as to hear it from people who have been there and done it so to speak, depite being told already by these elders to not go anywhere, any website, youtube etc, and to only stick to the official websites.
I guess this confims exactly why! The truth is exposed as the real truth,falsity. and yet they dont know that, they beileve its satan doing all of this!
Good grief!
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can somebody shed some light on me?
by psychiatric inill introduce myself.
my name is darren, im 23 and live in england.. im having some problems with the "truth".. to start it off and to keep it as minimal as possible because i dont want to bore your minds, i was raised with my whole family as a roman catholic.. after moving around the world, even as far as new zealand, i got myself in a terrible way in guernsey channel islands.
i met some old friends of mine who were into all sorts related to the "crime scene" and i got myself involved with drugs and the like.. i began a spiralling into depression and cutting my arms to feel alive.
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hello jgnat!
Thankyou for the response! yes i have been taught by elders about these things. I havelooked online and done my research and it pretty much what you said! So i am in agreement with you.
However the elders dismiss it and tell me its all peoples lies, and that the fact is Jesus was enthroned as king in 1914 (they have a calculation for that in the index of their bible teach book appendix i think page 208 somewhere near there) and thats how they come to the conclusion that Jesus was enthroned as king in 1914, and that satan was hurled down to earth..and they use things like world war 1 (1914!) to justify these teachings.
I find it all strangely bizarre :S Seeing as the facts are written everywhere, just as you have rightly pointed out!
Also, i didnt htink of it like that, and your right!! The remaining supposed 8000/9000 just simply wont die off and never will! lol !!!!!!!!!!!!