Posts by snare&racket

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The Birth of the Universe - Scientific Breakthrough

by cofty in

researchers working with a telescope at the south pole beleive they have glimpsed light from the first "trillionth of a trillionth of a tillionth" of a second after the big bang.. a lot of work has still to be done to confirm the findings, but if it holds up it is one of the biggest discoveries ever.. _________________________________________.

...inflation came with a very specific prediction - that it would be associated with waves of gravitational energy, and that these ripples in the fabric of space would leave an indelible mark on the oldest light in the sky - the famous cosmic microwave background.. the bicep2 team says it has now identified that signal.

scientists call it b-mode polarisation.

snare&racket

I don't understand the motivation to google then copy and paste information you don't understand onto a forum.

Sincere interest will take you to a library....not here.

What is this fake, lazy, pseudo-science motivated by? Just defending a ridiculous point to the death?

Prologos, I have never met someone who attempts to talks about 'science' so much.... and yet with so little knowledge of all or any of it's branches. Seriously, what are you doing man?

I know I have suggested the same core texts to you countless of times. I constantly encourage people to study science, maybe go and do physics in night school or part time? Better yet, go back and get your grades and apply to do it in high ed! That is what I did !

But this is no way to communicate or learn science, dipping in and out of highly complex topics, no idea what is up or down, no idea of even the terminology or basic parameters. Thinking that 'evidence' means Googling the remotest thing that seems to you to defend a recent pseudo-scientific opinion you have spewed. This is not how we do science, it is neither constructive or useful.

The only reason I personally answer your threads is to sign post other readers to the right answers, so that you don't add to the muddying waters of religion in the pool of science and knowledge. Don't be a hinderance prologos, you have as good a mind as anyone, be a help... you seem to have a lot of time, why not go back to schol and start again? I guarantee you will LOVE it.

Snare.

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Don't Expect This Site To Change Anybody's Religious Opinion

by minimus in

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just sayin.

snare&racket

Of course people change views and the internet is a fantastic source for data to aid that transition. Science is largely learned and communicated via the internet today. Communicating online is visibly changing the world as we watch it. As an atheist I have seen the movement grow and change opinioms across continents in the last decade with increasing momentum all due to the internet and communication.

I have changed views on many things based on this forum. As for now saying you meant, don't EXPECT to change people's view here, which means the same thing. Again, I would say you are wrong. If you bring an educated, intelligent view with evidence, expect to change the views of people that thought otherwise.

People hold a view, because they think it is correct. Only a fool will believe something he disagrees with, never mind communcating that view. It is healthy and beneficial for society to bring ideas to public, let the light of day shine on them, good or bad. If you think you are right on a view, you will share it and you will expect to not be proven wrong on it, obviously. Likewise when you communicate it, you will expect it to be accepted as true or you would not believe it yourself. So yes come share your view, expect to be heard, expect to be believed.... or expect to be proven wrong.

A closed mind may be opened here.

An ignorant mind may become informed.

An informed mind may become ignorant.

The Watchtower ban these site's for a reason, people are influenced by other people.

Lastly, my inbox is full of PM's from people that have come and changed their view over time.

Snare x

Bob Hoskins was no fool.... it's good to talk....

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Female JW's....No hierarchy here....

by snare&racket in

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despite jw's lying to outsiders about there being no hierarchy in the religion, we all knew there was plenty.. i love that in the real world, by enlarge equality is something we strive for and seek.. that aside, focusing on this forum in paticular, isn't it refreshing to see that the opinion of females, of the youth, of everyone... is as valid and equal as everyone else.

i hated the sexist, ageist, authoritarian rule of the jw's when i was a member.

so females of the forum, how does it feel to have a voice post wt ?

snare&racket

It was like breathing for the first time when i left the JW's. I imagne when leaving as a female it is twice as empowering.

A ship can't have two captains.......but an organisation can have 8 ? Go kiss my ass !

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....and the deaf will hear again!

by snare&racket in

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the moment a 39-year-old deaf woman hears someone for the first time, thanks to cochlear implants......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueo9itfxic.

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enough said..

snare&racket

The moment a 39-year-old deaf woman hears someone for the first time, thanks to cochlear implants........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UeO9ItFxic

Enough said.

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Female JW's....No hierarchy here....

by snare&racket in

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despite jw's lying to outsiders about there being no hierarchy in the religion, we all knew there was plenty.. i love that in the real world, by enlarge equality is something we strive for and seek.. that aside, focusing on this forum in paticular, isn't it refreshing to see that the opinion of females, of the youth, of everyone... is as valid and equal as everyone else.

i hated the sexist, ageist, authoritarian rule of the jw's when i was a member.

so females of the forum, how does it feel to have a voice post wt ?

snare&racket

Despite JW's lying to outsiders about there being no hierarchy in the religion, we all knew there was plenty.

I love that in the real world, by enlarge equality is something we strive for and seek.

That aside, focusing on this forum in paticular, isn't it refreshing to see that the opinion of females, of the youth, of everyone... is as valid and equal as everyone else. I hated the sexist, ageist, authoritarian rule of the Jw's when I was a member.

So females of the forum, how does it feel to have a voice post WT ? I think WT promotes machismo, male chauvinistic and dominated thinking and It is not only illogical and draconian but harmful to a society.

Women are equal to men....welcome to 2014.

Snare x

p.s. Whilst discussing this topic, if the sisters could make cups of tea and bake some cakes, the other side of a soundproof door, it would be much appreciated :P x

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Post the funniest WTBTS quote you can think of

by DuvanMuvan in

just felt like a laugh.. if any funny quotes come to mind feel free to post them here.

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"Some scientists claim.............."

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If the bible said two plus two equals 5 or 2 how would u respond, believers?

by Jon Preston in

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so would you accept that as true?

or would you test it to see if it is, indeed, truth?.

snare&racket

There are plenty of real examples you could have used where the bible is outrightly wrong on history, science, geography, logic, or is even self contradicting.

Despite this, be prepared for claims that the bible is not a....

history book

science book

geography book

perfect book

infallible book

......the irony being, they will go bananas if you call it fiction. Nevermind the mess of asking how you know which bits are right or wrong. They just know!

Some people don't want to face reality. Thats ok too. The life of pi was a great film that made a great point.

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2014: do you see Witnesses ramping up activity? What will the aftermath be in 2015?

by JimmyPage in

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jw's often say they don't serve with any dates in mind.

but the fact is many of them can't fathom why the end just hasn't come yet.

since 2014 marks 100 years of invisible rule many witnesses can't help but think this has some special meaning.

snare&racket

It's funny.... Ask a JW if the governing body have ever got anything majorly wrong and they will umm and arr to avoid saying 'yes'. Ask them what they got right and they will umm and arr to avoid saying 'nothing'.

But suggest for a moment that they are hoping on thin air and they get offended...... Mind control at it's best.

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Describe What a Jehovah's Witness Elder Is Like

by minimus in

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i know what they are supposed to be like.

but at this point in time, do you think the elders look joyful?

are they serious bible students?

snare&racket

"The ceeam of the crop has gone...."

The religion has never been true and the elders have never had real authority from god, just a man made dictaitorship.

For as long as elders have destroyed families and lives, there has been no cream and no crop.

An elder that smiles as he disfellowships you or hugs you as he reproves you, is still a human in a position he does not deserve.

An elder has always gained the position, not from bible knowledge or study,mbut by loyalty to the orgsnisation. They are nothing better than mafia footsoldiers.

For those of us with rose tinted glasses of the past, sunny weekends at the assembly and loving elders wanting us to live forever....wake up! Behind the scenes people were still getting stamped on and disfellowshipped. The reason you look back so fondly was because you were immersed in a mind control, brain washed state of mind, everything was candy floss! ......it wasn't! Tne further back in literature you go, the more hurrendous the doctrines were on rape, vaccines, science, medicine, personal sex life, thinking....

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Don't Expect This Site To Change Anybody's Religious Opinion

by minimus in

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just sayin.

snare&racket

Minimus, sometimes you say the most bizzare things. I was a young pioneer and reading this site in secret, even in bethel i read it in secret. It was 2000 and 2001 and I used a WAP phone to see the webpages And read the stories via JW NET SOUP.

You are simply incorrect.

Are you a current JW minimus?