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The official COSMOS thread

by Jon Preston in

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so what does everyone think this far?

please theist feel free to add your opinions if you e watched so you can also appreciate certain facts weve learned....and hey theres speculation too!

but non judgmental speculation;-).

snare&racket

It's a tv proram to inspire kids....of course it is simplified!

Listen to Neil talk about it, he wants to inspire young people like he was inspired, seth too. Despite it's simplicity, we know there are adults that don't know this info...we were all one of them for some time! Programs like this can help such adults, if they dare watch it.

As a JW, you have blinders on. Real thick blinders. I have no doubt in my mind, that the show would have gone over th heads of most JW's, a long, long way above them, despite it being for kids. As a JW it would have gone over mine for sure. Though I am confident it is a good starting point.... It shows what science does, what it is and a little of what we have come to know. That alone is very powerful. It covers a lot of ground that took me about 3 years to cover in books alone.

Obviously the science has been diluted from raw data to a story, but this is obvious and expected on a Fox tv show. If you want real hardcore astronomy, pack your bags for university! It is a tv program on fox, aimed to INFORM, you don't start at quantum theory!

I think it did a great job and a beautiful job. As did Sagan ! Sagan inspired and informed, so does this show.

Each to their own obviously.... I like chorizo, some people don't (are wrong lol)....

Snare x

Old Turkish Bible Up for Debate Again

by snare&racket in

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the relic was rediscovered in the depositum of ankaran justice palace, the ancient version of bible is believed to be written in syriac, a dialect of the native language of jesus.ankara / turkey the bible was already in custody of turkish authorities after having been seized in 2000 in an operation in mediterranean area in turkey.

the gang of smugglers had been charged with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations and the possession of explosives and went to trial.

turkish police testified in a court hearing they believe the manuscript in the bible could be about 1500 to 2000 years old.after waiting eight years in ankara the ancient bible is being transferred to the ankaran ethnography museum with a police escort.. ancient bible will be shown in ankaran ethnography museumthe bible, whose copies are valued around 3-4 mil.

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Ancient Bible in Aramaic dialected Syriac rediscovered in Turkey

The relic was ‘rediscovered’ in the depositum of Ankaran Justice Palace, the ancient version of bible is believed to be written in Syriac, a dialect of the native language of Jesus.

Ankara / Turkey – The bible was already in custody of Turkish authorities after having been seized in 2000 in an operation in Mediterranean area in Turkey. The gang of smugglers had been charged with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations and the possession of explosives and went to trial. Turkish police testified in a court hearing they believe the manuscript in the bible could be about 1500 to 2000 years old.After waiting eight years in Ankara the ancient bible is being transferred to the Ankaran Ethnography Museum with a police escort.

Ancient Bible will be shown in Ankaran Ethnography Museum

The bible, whose copies are valued around 3-4 Mil. Dollars had been transferred to Ankara for safety reasons, since no owners of the ancient relic could be found.

The manuscript carries excerpts of the Bible written in gold lettering on leather and loosely strung together, with lines of Syriac script with Aramaic dialect. Turkish authorities express the bible is a cultural asset and should be protected for being worthy of a museum.

Ancient Bible in Aramaic dialected Syriac rediscovered in Turkey

Syriac is a dialect of Aramaic – the native language of Jesus – once spoken across much of the Middle East and Central Asia. It is used wherever there are Syrian Christians and still survives in the Syrian Orthodox Church in India and a village in the vicinity of Syrian capital Damascus. Aramaic is also still used in religious rituals of Maronite Christians in Cyprus.

Experts were however divided over the provenance of the manuscript, and whether it was an original, which would render it priceless, or a fake. Other questions surround the discovery of the ancient bible, whether the smugglers had had other copies of the relic or had smuggled them from Turkey.

Vatican eyes the faith of the ancient relic

The Vatican reportedly placed an official request to examine the scripture, which was written on pages made of animal hide in the Aramaic language using the Syriac alphabet.

The copy of the ancient Bible is valued as high as 40 million Turkish Liras ( 28 Mil. Dollars)

p.s. I think it is fake for sure, but the Vatican REALLY want to see it.

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WTS buys £1,000,000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK

by Simon in

shower room.

office.

games room.

snare&racket

was that the llandudno assembly?

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International Convention

by msconcerned in

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an email forwarded to a friend.

what do you make of it?.

below is a report about preparing for the seattle, washington international convention.

snare&racket

These guys really need to get out more..... when booking a venue and some hotel rooms appears like a miracle..... it is time to pick another cult.

I once got prepared for a flight outside a terminal gate, it was a long trip, 36 hours to the destination. It was my first ever flight and I sought out somone to ask a few questions. I sat next to and started chatting with a couple who BY CHANCE, were .....going on the same flight as me.......to the same continent, to the same country, to the same region, .....yep it gets worse....the same district, .....the same tiny village.....AND ......amazingly...... the very same street!!

If you think that is beyond coincidence and ridiculous........it didn't end there... I joked "number 15?"

They said......... "17"

We all sat there mouths wide open at the most bizzare experience!

But nope...it didn't end there either....It gets worse again!

Unbeknown to me..... my great uncle owned 15 & 17!!!

By PURE random chance they were staying .....in my relatives spare accommodation (old b&b) for a wedding! The other side of the world!

Never, ever, ever underestimate probability and statistics, what seems miraculous beyond coincidence, is in fact our human ignorance of math and behaviour.

Now what was it again....needing a venue on a certain date to be available and getting some hotel chains to rent some rooms out.....miracle?

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How to cope with depression?

by make yourself in

i know its very common for jws and ex jws to deal with depression.

maybe it's a side effect of cognitive dissonance or the whole outlook on life being a jw.

but what are some ways to cope with depression?

snare&racket

It is important to talk to your doctor, with regard to your concerns for depression........and also to do some tests, to rule out other causes (hypothyroid etc).

Take a look at this page, it is very helpful.

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/depression-leaflet

snare x

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They are i- Pad Nutty Now

by Poztate in

so many at my wife's hall have rushed to buy i-pads,androids etc for use in servicetm and at the hall.. most know little or nothing about how to use them but have joined the stampede to jw.org tm and the reinvention of the wtbts.. it prompted one elder at my wife's hall to have a seminar at his house to explain how to use them in service and at the hall.. how exciting.... one 80 year old pioneer woman will be there with her new toy.. as a distraction it seems to be working quite well.

no need to worry about 1914 or other issues.. they are all nuts and getting nuttier....

snare&racket

GBA4IOS.... an essential app for meetings

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WTS buys £1,000,000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK

by Simon in

shower room.

office.

games room.

snare&racket

WOW, this is news to me. How did you come by this? This is my neck of the woods.

My pals family (not JWs) own all the land surrounding this house. What a small world, they are neighbours to this property and have the same view.

Also it is Geraint W, he runs the bethel farm and the welsh translation!

I don't see the purpose in this extravagance! Has anyone told them we are in a recession? Also I didn't see any translating equipment .....AND.....30 mins from that house is a property owned by the society, used for CO housing, that is central to the Welsh speaking areas! This is a ridiculous purchase and blatantly a holiday home in the menai straights!!!!

Keep in mind, in the uk bethel you are punished for having a window open if the heating is on. You are sat down and told about the precious contributions..... here THEY are buying houses, looking onto the menai straight and snowdonia national park, because.....? Would a small house in a cheaper area not do? A small rented office space?

p.s. looks like a JW welsh bible is on it's way......

Snare

Never a JW.... if Oxfam bought this beautiful house because they wanted to translate a brochure into welsh..... there would be outrage! IBSA is a UK charity!

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

snare&racket

Though they may make life a bit harder for the rest of us apostates behaving like this, I have sympathy for them.

The painful irritation of the mind, the remains of a cult life that obviously motivates them, is clearly personal, emotional and eating away at them.

The turmoil and damage that causes someone to drink and cause disorder in this cult after leaving, is due to inner pain that was done TO them as we all know and witnessed ourselves.

I am sure most of us have thought of doing such things. but restrained outselves or dismissed it.Don't get me wrong, it is not the way to do it...not at all, in my opinion. But I feel sad that they are so desperate to have their side heard in that KH, they did that.

I don't remember ever seeing such displays in the literature, under a heading of 'What a life in Watchtower can result in....'

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The official COSMOS thread

by Jon Preston in

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so what does everyone think this far?

please theist feel free to add your opinions if you e watched so you can also appreciate certain facts weve learned....and hey theres speculation too!

but non judgmental speculation;-).

snare&racket

I think it is fantastic and a decent homage to Sagan.

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Abiogenesis takes another step forward.....

by snare&racket in

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spark of life: metabolism appears in lab without cells19:42 25 april 2014 by linda geddesfor similar stories, visit the evolution and human evolution topic guidesmetabolic processes that underpin life on earth have arisen spontaneously outside of cells.

the serendipitous finding that metabolism the cascade of reactions in all cells that provides them with the raw materials they need to survive can happen in such simple conditions provides fresh insights into how the first life formed.

it also suggests that the complex processes needed for life may have surprisingly humble origins.. "people have said that these pathways look so complex they couldn't form by environmental chemistry alone," says markus ralser at the university of cambridge who supervised the research.. but his findings suggest that many of these reactions could have occurred spontaneously in earth's early oceans, catalysed by metal ions rather than the enzymes that drive them in cells today.. the origin of metabolism is a major gap in our understanding of theemergence of life.

snare&racket

Speargrass, I stand by my answer to you, you are asking questions we have answers to. Ask yourelf why you don't know them, IF you are truly interested....