Posts by snare&racket

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Science proves there is a God

by seekchristonly in

fusion with god natural .

in the cosmos universe or whatever.

all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.

Cass...... if someone walked amongst a pile of motor engineers and said "I think the future of motoring, you know the noisy thing you use spanners on in a car, well I think the future is the flux capacitor"..... they too would instantly realise that this person does not understand the basics of engineering, or the parameters of fiction and reality in engineering.

I really don't know a better way of mirroring back to you what it is like to to have a good understanding of science and read such posts as yours.

It isn't that I/we are smarter or better than you. You are ignorant of basic science information. I was also totally ignorant of the basics, right up until about 7 years ago when I got stuck into the sciences to see what was true and what wasn't. What embarassed me more was how much the JW's hold us back because most people know the basic sciences and were were raised devoid of the basic appreciation of chemistry, physics and biology.

I hope you find these books helpful if you truly want answers..

The Greatest Show On Earth

A Brief ?history of Time

Why E=MC^2

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Just letting you know I passed the exam

by will-be-apostate in

jw
friends

hi, my apostate friends.. a couple of weeks ago i asked for some advice regarding studying methods.

then some of you asked me to let you know my score after i take the exam at mineralogy.. i scored 90%.

i'm pretty happy with it because the exams i take are not in my native language.. if i keep up with the good scores i might get a scholarship and then bye bye watchtower society.

snare&racket

Superb result, a great example of how hard work translates into a good exam result which itself results in educational opportunities which can result in amazing doors opening....

For so long in my life I had no idea how people achieved secular success and progress. Doing well in exams simply works, I have witnessed exam results change peoples lives for several years now.

You are a fine example WBA, keep it up, if you set out an academic and goal orientated path, it will come to be with hard work.

The Watchtower lied when they said academia does not work, it simply does. Choose a sensible career/end goal, then even if starting from scratch at a mature age (high school grades), you can become anything you wish... just simply pass the exams and you get moved up a stage, then you pass those exams and get advanced another stage etc etc. Do that a few years and eventually you get to the end of the required learning. It really is that simple.

Well done xxx

snare

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Lawrence Krauss

by KateWild in

krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.

hence his science is biased.

being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.

snare&racket

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ONE REASON

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

out of interest, and to formulate a cordial chat, would you give your top one reason for your belief or non belief?.

my foremost 'one reason' for non belief is:.

the historical evidence that provides an explination and timeline for how the modern religious doctrine's and dogma developed over time.. .

snare&racket

cool, apologies :D

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ONE REASON

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

out of interest, and to formulate a cordial chat, would you give your top one reason for your belief or non belief?.

my foremost 'one reason' for non belief is:.

the historical evidence that provides an explination and timeline for how the modern religious doctrine's and dogma developed over time.. .

snare&racket

I think that was a personal snipe, but been as I don't understand it, I'll stay hush about it .....x

Cheers prologos for the input, so I summise that you are swayed by the working universe we have around us.

That's cool, cheers.

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Lawrence Krauss

by KateWild in

krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.

hence his science is biased.

being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.

snare&racket

Fernando, do help the world by explaining the mysteries of science via the ancient jewish scrolls.....

Or wait until science explains it then look for an ambigous verse that may be construed in it's many translated alterations to mean something akin to the scientific discovery.

No offence and sorry for the teasing, but your last reply is littered with HUGE claims of revelation and knowledge none of which I have seen demonstrated having read the bible several times and knowing the sciences to a reasonable level.

I have no idea how a book that said there was a firmamnet with stars hung on it above a flat circular disk of earth, can be helpfull to science or be in harmony with it. I sincerely looked for harmony between the bible and science fact and not only have i found not one piece or matching information, the words of the bible have been flatly proven wrong countless times by scientific discoveries.

Read Genesis with a biblical companion once more and compare it to the scientific facts of the issue, please come back to me if you find ONE scientific fact found in the Genesis account alone that we now know to be true that could not be simply be summised by logic by the Jewish scribes at the time. If you feel I am being unfair by adding that humans back then were,not idiots, then ignore my last point. But, keep in mind that thousands of years before the jewish nation existed, the egyptians worked out the circumference of the earth to three decimal places using triganometry, they were also doing cataract operations... so don't underestimate what was known back then.

Good luck....

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Matthew Powner- Advanced research on the Origin of life. How credible is he?

by KateWild in

i have come to the conclusion that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of god.

however the scientific evidence available is compelling enough for me to believe that a creator is responsible for life on earth.. i have read much about powner and understand the work he is doing.

i am interested in your views as to his credibility.

snare&racket

I have no idea why people are hanging god on a stage in a chemical reactions but each to their own?!

I must add however that physics is indeed the foundation of chemistry. We battled this one in our first ever chat Kate lol.

Chemistry is all about the atoms, what do,you think keeps the atomic parts held together, what do you think breaks apart and attracts the elements in these chemical reactions? ......Physics. Your opening post and first replies was all about the influence of physics on chemistry. Those bonds break as it is energetically efficient to do so based on....physics.

Physics gave way to chemistry which gave way to biology which gave way to evolution which gave way to me which gave way to boring replies on a forum...ta da!

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Unbalanced way of thinking?

by msconcerned in

so, one hot beautiful (not a cloud in the sky) kind of summer day, there was an elder who decided to re shingle his house.

this was on the book study day.

he started early and got all the shingles off of the roof in time for the book study that night.

snare&racket

indeed sparrow, indeed !

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Lawrence Krauss

by KateWild in

krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.

hence his science is biased.

being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.

snare&racket

No worries, if you had this question on your mind maybe others do too.

It is good to have it voiced and discussed so visitors/lurkers can see how science works if they feel the same way.

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How would you define RELIGION, and why?

by Fernando in

"judge" rutherford defined or classified all religion as "a snare and a racket" in his books "religion" and "enemies".. after rutherford's death in 1942, his protege, watchtower vice president, and aclu darling, hayden c. covington, in the early 1950's, for reasons of legal expedience and supremacist aspirations, suddenly converted the watchtower into a religion.. this was done alongside one of the most audacious, spurious and longstanding swindles of the us legal system.

this involved twisting philippians 1:7 and misrepresenting the watchtower's true nature, objectives and activities.. .

this meant that it became necessary for the watchtower to suddenly reclassify and redefine religion (w51 1/15 p. 43 new legal booklet well named; w51 8/15 p. 511 questions from readers; yb75 p. 161 part 2 "for gladys bolton...").. two new watchtower classifications were suddenly created: "true religion" and "false religion".. now "true religion" meant "true beliefs" whilst "belief" in ever changing watchtower doctrine was equated with the one "faith" of scripture.. all this while the watchtower increasingly and maliciously truncated, obfuscated and hid the liberating full "good news" (or unabridged gospel) of scripture, which it lyingly claimed (in court) that it was actually "defending and legally establishing".. how would you have defined religion before learning ttatt?.

snare&racket

The blinders leading the blinded