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  would jehovah find himself disfellowshipped?

  by sowhatnow in

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  so lets assume that the current jw use of disfellowshipping was used back in jesus day, .

  who of the bible characters would find themselves disfellowshipped?

  jehovah?

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  If a baptised JW denied following Jesus three times, would they be given microphone privileges?
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  Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

  by cofty in

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  an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

  how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

  read more....

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  Great point cofty, they will quote changes in homosexual doctrine to be drivers in community progress around the world...... 

  Coming back to the OP, I have felt for some time that JW's skate far to close to the edges of religious extremism for most people now. the literature is less provocative thanit was but only because the homophobic culture survives well without it being printed in ink. I know teens disfellowshipped from my old hall, cut off from all friends and family, because they refused to pretend to be straight for the rest of their lives. It is a crime and one day, it will be punished as such, rightly so.
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  Wow, the forum is very slow

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  i know that logging in has been a problem for some.

  i hardly post any more.

  i figured there would be more activity than this.

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  Cheers Si, top bloke 
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  Wow, the forum is very slow

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  i know that logging in has been a problem for some.

  i hardly post any more.

  i figured there would be more activity than this.

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  Simon I sincerely think the new format is not conducive to a high turn over forum and long pages of chat as we love to have here.

  Please don't misinterpret what I say, I am hugely greatful for your work, but for sure I find the format obstructive. I am just saying if others feel the same, it may explain the numbers.
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  Prince Charles, Cameron and Obama on their way to Saudi

  by Xanthippe in

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  what do you think of royalty and premiers going to pay their respects at the death of saudi's king abdullah in light of the human rights abuses; public executions and people getting a hundred lashes for criticising islam?

  a hundred lashes!

  wouldn't that kill someone!

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  The lashes are done over several weeks.

  He was an illiterate fool, very cruel too.

  Humanity progresses consecutively with tombstones, keep em coming.....,
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  Really don't feel like a JW anymore

  by snare&racket in

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  it has been a good 8 years away from my area, a good 10 years + since i was regularly at meetings.

  a good 12 years since i was hesitantly active.. it is a slow process but it does happen.

  i now feel no connection to the belief system beyond memories.

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  It has been a good 8 years away from my area, a good 10 years + since I was regularly at meetings. A good 12 years since I was hesitantly active.

  It is a slow process but it does happen. I now feel no connection to the belief system beyond memories. 

  Due to my job I occasionally interact with JW's , perhaps once a month. I never mention that I once printed the magazines they hold with them. 

  It feels good, I feel normal. 

  Part of me didn't want to mention this because of the time involved, yes it has taken >10 years BUT it is possible to untangle the JW nonsense indoctrinated from childhood on.

  For many years, it felt like I would always have deep resentment, a constant anguish and anger inside for stolen years (25) a stolen youth, all the lies, all the deceit etc etc. 

  
  

  Now I am just greatful to have got out and away...... I do not miss a thing and despite this being a shock to me, to say..... I also no longer miss anyone.

  i don't miss the armageddon hunger.

  i don't miss the ignorance.

  i don't miss the internal policing,

  i don't miss the constant judging.

  i don't miss the constant self denial.

  i don't miss the though control.

  i don't mis the competitiveness.

  i don't miss the materialism.

  i don't miss the endemic alcoholism.

  i don't miss the casual domestic violence,

  i don't miss the coveting for mass genocide in exchange  of a cabin built on someone else's land, surrounded by pandas.

  
  

  All of the above does not make a good human being. the longer I am away from such people, when I do meet up with them now, I realise how they are NOT good members of society. They are not healthy families. It is not a peaceful, pleasant religion at all.

  A financial institution, ran like a Orwellian slave camp, in the guise of a religion..... What's to miss?

  
  

  snare x

  
  
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  No longer an MS! Hooray...finally!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  well, it's finally happened!.

  im no longer an ms.. as many would know from our chats via this forum, i've seen it coming for a while....and while the way it was done stinks, i'm really happy to finally be free!.

  (would love to share more details...i will do in time...or perhaps a pm would be best).

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  The less you do in the cong, the less on your conscience when you leave x 
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  Je Suis Charlie

  by Slidin Fast in

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  this incident in paris makes me feel absolutely furious.

  yes i feel desperately sorry for the victims and their families no one should have to deal with that.

  the thing that makes me feel absolutely incandescent though is the attack on freedom of speech and expression.

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  There is nothing wrong with mocking ideas, opinion or belief. 

  People have a right to beliefs, ideas and opinions.

  People DO NOT have a right to not be offended.
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  Je Suis Charlie

  by Slidin Fast in

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  this incident in paris makes me feel absolutely furious.

  yes i feel desperately sorry for the victims and their families no one should have to deal with that.

  the thing that makes me feel absolutely incandescent though is the attack on freedom of speech and expression.

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  This event will change Europe. I don't mean a revolution or acute swing, but in the subconscious of many I think today they said "enough."

  
  

  I don't think this will end well, the rise of the right may just take place.
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  JW's love to talk themselves into believing stupidity

  by Sour Grapes in

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  well today the watchtower conductor makes the statement that "the tv.jw.org web site is proof that we have jehovah's blessing because such an endeavor would have been impossible without his help".

  of course that causes all of the bobbing heads in full agreement.

  i wonder what god blessed cbs, abc, and nbc to get up and going and offer their programming?.

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  It's 2014. You can set up an online tv channel  in the time it takes to have a poop. Then you just need monies for equipment. Is that the miracle, the amount of monie$ they have?....... cos the Catholic$ are winning that one!