Djeggnog wrote regarding my post,
"I really don't care to hear what you might opine as to what I wrote in response to @BillyEB's post."
I guess you wouldn't, but do you really think that most readers on this forum care to read the giant bag of empty words you post on almost every reply, Sonny boy? (Actually I have no idea how old you are, but you called me Dad at least 3 times , which was woefully off topic, as was the majority of what you said, but I'll respond to your remarks.)
You said this,
"Should I feel a need to ask for the advice of someone that has since 2006 shown a complete disloyalty to God's organization in rejecting both Jehovah's sovereignty and Jesus' lordship..."
Not at all; I have neither rejected, nor shown disloyalty to, anything about Jehovah God or Jesus Christ. However, I have rejected many teachings of Watchtower and now see the organization for what it really is: a human based religion that has had many false teachings, promoted false prophecies, and has shown that it's first love is for self, for it's own success and prosperity as a religion, rather than for God or people.
And you said,
"You may have been a born-in..." No, I'm not born-in.
"...you may have been in association with Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years." Yes, baptised in the early 1970s at the age of 20. I came in during the pre-1975 boom.
And you made these remarks, which puzzle me,
"You remind me of those who will leave God's organization to go absolutely nowhere because of having a weak conscience that permitted them to accept a blood transfusion..."
Again, not at all. You didn't exactly say I had accepted a blood transfusion, but that I remind you of someone who did. For the record I have not. It was issues other than blood that brought me to the internet and this forum, but when I read the thread where you were invited to participate in a blood discussion, I have to say my eyes were opened on that topic. It quickly became clear that neither Watchtower nor Djeggnog had a leg to stand on regarding the Society's blood policy. I was truly grateful for that thread and your participation in it. It was an unexpected gift. (That discussion is found here.)
Actually, when I was in Watchtower I was going absolutely nowhere, although in the early years I thought I was.
Dj, more of your remarks,
"...or who would shun their own family members because of the conscience of one or more of the elders in their local congregation, who are not masters over anyone's faith (2 Corinthians 1:24) advise them to do so, or because one or more of the more influential in the congregation, who are utterly devoid of a Bible-trained conscience that can distinguish between right and wrong should strongly suggest, based on something they read in one of our magazines or heard someone say, that you should violate your own Bible trained conscience that informs you is unloving to be shunning members of one's own family just because someone else's conscience thinks doing this to be the right thing for you to be doing."
Huh? As to shunning, I have never had a family member in a position to be shunned, nor would I have ever done so since that is a Watchtower policy that I have never been comfortable with. I have no idea what your remarks about"the conscience of one or more of the elders in their local congregation"or most of the rest of the above quoted paragraph means; it is somewhat incoherent.
However, you did make another remark about shunning,
"...violate your own Bible trained conscience that informs you is unloving to beshunning members of one's own family just because someone else's conscience thinks doing this to be the right thing for you to be doing."
Again, your remarks about me shunning someone, or being like someone who shuns, are not connected with reality.
But you said more,
"Your own conscience is telling you it is unloving for you to not embrace the joy that occasions the birth of one of their children to whom you are related, unloving for you to not attend the funerals of our own family members based on viewing what is only a suggestion designed only to protect your spirituality to be a rule that forces you to treat members of one's own family as if they no longer mattered or were really dead. No, all Jehovah's Witnesses are not exactly the same."
Honestly DJ, I think you have me mixed up with someone else, since I have never 'treated a member of my family as if they no longer mattered or were dead,' nor failed to embrace the joy of the birth of a family member's child, nor failed to attend the funeral of a deceased family member, I am struggling to figure out why you are using that kind of language.
To answer your simple questions,
"...who are you? I mean, you're not @Simon, you're not a mod, you don't run JWN, so who are you to me that I should listen to you?
I am simply one of thousands of people who now see the Watchtower organization for what it really is, and have gained valuable knowledge about the WTS from this forum.
"Are you the Pharaoh?"
No, but I left a religion that acts like Pharaoh.
