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  "The Adventists" - Program on Public TV right now....

  by ziddina in

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  2. beliefs

  according to this program, which i am watching right now, the 7th-day adventists number only around a million in the u.s.a., yet they have built multiple hospitals, clinics, and health programs with a holistic leaning.... from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/seventh-day_adventist_church.

  health and diet.

  since the 1860s when the church began, wholeness and health have been an emphasis of the adventist church.

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  It's like the Jehovah's Witnesses are the Adventists' evil twin...

  Very funny. I like that remark.
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  Does the WTS now teach that the people of Noah's day and the people of Sodom will be resurrected?

  by garbonzo in

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  2. beliefs

  does the wts now teach that the people of noah's day and the people of sodom will be resurrected?.

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  @ Garbonzo,

  Breakfast of Champion's reference to page 17 of the January 2013 public edition of the Watchtower was a joke. In 2013 that magazine, as well as the Awake, will be cut down to 16 pages. Therefore page 17 will not exist, so no information.
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  The annointed remnant figure rising - a question

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  having been out of the loop for a while on here, it dawned on me that the figure of memorial partakers has risen substantially from when i was a jw.. i think i bowed out at around 8500 in 2006.. can anyone briefly explain what the main reasons for this increase are and if it is ever discussed among jw's because if i remember correctly, the figure should be going down, not up.. thanks.. j.

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  Here is the Watchtower quote that the declining number of anointed was proof of being in the last days.

  (W 1-15-2000 p13) Subheading “Six convincing lines of evidence [that we are in the last days]”
  18 "Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller.”

  At that time (year 2000) the number of anointed (partakers of the emblems) had been declining. Now the number is increasing quickly, as shown by the Society's own count.

  Yr Partakers
  2000 - 8661
  2001 - 8730
  2002 - 8760
  2003 - 8565
  2004 - 8570
  2005 - 8524
  2006 - 8758
  2007 - 9105
  2008 - 9986
  2009 - 10857
  2010 - 11202
  2011 - 11824
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  Time for an Intervention

  by NCO in

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  2. friends

  come this july, i will have been out of the jw's for 20 years.

  and it has been quite a long time since i've really spent any serious time studying up on jw news and doctrines although i do still read here occasionally.

  but after today looks like i've got some work to do.. my first sergeant called me this morning asking for my help to fix his dad's truck as i'm an auto technician in my civilian job.

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  Duplicate post.
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  Time for an Intervention

  by NCO in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  come this july, i will have been out of the jw's for 20 years.

  and it has been quite a long time since i've really spent any serious time studying up on jw news and doctrines although i do still read here occasionally.

  but after today looks like i've got some work to do.. my first sergeant called me this morning asking for my help to fix his dad's truck as i'm an auto technician in my civilian job.

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  Here are some reports on the Child Molestation issue from different news reporting agencies around the world.

  Edit: I see that some of the Videos below have posted as embedded, but others are blue links that will ask you for a player when you click on them. Windows Media Player seems to work. Other players may too.

  NBC News Dateline,

  1. http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/2002_Dateline.wmv
  2. http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/2002_Dateline_shorter_version.wmv
  3. Settlements, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLAC9kS_EqM&feature=player_embedded

  Fifth Estate, Canada

  http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/2002_Fifth_Estate_Spiritual_Shepherds.wmv

  From Australia,

  1. Part one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO6s7hc40Ic&feature=BFa&list=PLACF47E2524EF55C6&lf=results_main
  2. Part two, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WofZe9o2-UE&NR=1&feature=endscreen&list=PLACF47E2524EF55C6
  3. Part three, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ia4lcW0DI&feature=relmfu
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  Does the WTS now teach that the people of Noah's day and the people of Sodom will be resurrected?

  by garbonzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wts now teach that the people of noah's day and the people of sodom will be resurrected?.

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  Breakfast of Champions said,

  The answer to that question and many more like it will be found on page 17 of the January 2013 Public Edition of the Watchtower

  The meaning of that just hit me. Very clever.
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  Do People Hate You Too For Being Too Beautiful?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  samantha brick has this problem.

  i understand her pain..

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  Mac Davis had some thoughts on this. Lord it's hard to be humble...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKEnVOuOOOE
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  opinion needed quick!

  by independenthinker in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey guys, .

  bringing my gf along tonight after been forced to invite her(shes worldly).

  how will people treat her?

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  NewChapter said,

  They will LOVE her to death, and gossip in car groups later.

  Bingo!
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  opinion needed quick!

  by independenthinker in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey guys, .

  bringing my gf along tonight after been forced to invite her(shes worldly).

  how will people treat her?

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  People will likely be very polite to her, and to you too. After all this is an occassion where they look for new people, and others they have not seen for a while, in hopes that they can start a study and bring them in.

  Any negative talk will probably be behind your back.

  Of course the elders might want to meet with you later for an explanation, and to give some counsel about being "unevenly yoked" with unbelievers.
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  "Crisis of Conscience" and "In Search of Christian Freedom" in stock at Amazon.

  by ScenicViewer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  - crisis of conscience (hardcover), $29.95 here.. - in search of christian freedom (hardcover), $29.95 here.. - in search of christian freedom (paperback), $29.95 here.. all sold by cynthia franz..

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  Price seems a little high really...but great information.

  The price was definitely lower before Ray Franz died; I seem to remember paying about $18 or $19 for CoC. After his death new copies became unavalable, which caused the price of used copies to go through the roof at $100 and higher.

  Considering how scarce they have been the current price of $30 isn't that bad, and if it goes down more in the future as Randy suggests, even better.

  Of note, $30 will get you a hard cover of either book.

  The PDF download is available here for $7.95, http://www.commentarypress.com/Detail/eng_crisis_e.html, also sold by Cynthia Franz through the CommentaryPress site.