on 4/6, the poster orphan annie posted about her experiences with jw's and her ill husband.
unfortunately, her husband died monday, and she is feeling very sad.
i just wanted to make others aware of it, so that we can encourage her and give her some much needed support during this rough time.. her original thread is here.
Your loss is heart breaking Orphan Annie. I hope the fond memories of your beloved husband will help you to heal quickly.
The behavior of the Witnesses in needing to rush off during your difficult time is, unfortunately, fairly common among them. It seems they do not support anyone that is not firmly part of their organization, finding reasons to ignore them instead.
Best wishes for the future, and I hope that after you recover your life is full and happy.
i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
Truman,
What a terrible loss. Best wishes to you and the rest of the family as you recover from this tragedy.
I was delighted to read the following remark in your post. Putting human relationships first, instead of following Watchtower's guidance, is a mark of a good man.
...when I left the organization more than a decade ago, he never gave me misery over that decision--although I know it hurt him deeply. We had a close relationship...
i've had a quick glance through the july 15th watchtower, and at first reading there seems nothing too dramatic to report.. the title of the first article "let jehovah guide you to true freedom" seemed ironic to say the least.
not surprisingly, the way you get more freedom is by relinquishing it entirely to the watch tower society.
there is also a bizarre statement in the very first paragraph of the article on page 7 (bold highlighted remarks are mine):.
(W 7-15-2012, p24 par9)
However, many today have had to endure extreme rejection by their family.
This is very similar to a remark made a few years ago.
(Awake 7-2009 p29)
“No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.”
While Watchtower makes remarks suggesting that it does not support rejecting family members, or cause family members to choose between religion and family relationships, the truth is it's a strong proponent both.
any suggestions on questions i could ask her?
i have about a dozen questions already and we are filming, but any last minute thoughts will be appreciated.. zen.
A while back there was a discussion here regarding transfusion of whole blood; it seems that it's rare for whole blood to be transfused in hospitals, if it's done at all.
So I'm curious to know, is whole blood supplied to and used by hospitals, or do they only get blood that is separated into either it's primary components or fractions.
does anyone remember the case where some congregation didn't get enough money to cover the costs of the magazines?.
wtbts sent a letter to the congregation asking for money.
does anyone remeber this case?
The JHWH,
If you haven't already seen this, it seems to relate to your question regarding congregations being billed for, or in this case pressured to pay for, literature.
Scroll down to Dogpatch's 3663rd post for the information.
according to this program, which i am watching right now, the 7th-day adventists number only around a million in the u.s.a., yet they have built multiple hospitals, clinics, and health programs with a holistic leaning.... from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/seventh-day_adventist_church.
health and diet.
since the 1860s when the church began, wholeness and health have been an emphasis of the adventist church.
It's like the Jehovah's Witnesses are the Adventists' evil twin...
Very funny. I like that remark.
does the wts now teach that the people of noah's day and the people of sodom will be resurrected?.
@ Garbonzo,
Breakfast of Champion's reference to page 17 of the January 2013 public edition of the Watchtower was a joke. In 2013 that magazine, as well as the Awake, will be cut down to 16 pages. Therefore page 17 will not exist, so no information.
having been out of the loop for a while on here, it dawned on me that the figure of memorial partakers has risen substantially from when i was a jw.. i think i bowed out at around 8500 in 2006.. can anyone briefly explain what the main reasons for this increase are and if it is ever discussed among jw's because if i remember correctly, the figure should be going down, not up.. thanks.. j.
Here is the Watchtower quote that the declining number of anointed was proof of being in the last days.
(W 1-15-2000 p13) Subheading “Six convincing lines of evidence [that we are in the last days]”
18 "Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller.”
At that time (year 2000) the number of anointed (partakers of the emblems) had been declining. Now the number is increasing quickly, as shown by the Society's own count.
Yr Partakers
2000 - 8661
2001 - 8730
2002 - 8760
2003 - 8565
2004 - 8570
2005 - 8524
2006 - 8758
2007 - 9105
2008 - 9986
2009 - 10857
2010 - 11202
2011 - 11824
come this july, i will have been out of the jw's for 20 years.
and it has been quite a long time since i've really spent any serious time studying up on jw news and doctrines although i do still read here occasionally.
but after today looks like i've got some work to do.. my first sergeant called me this morning asking for my help to fix his dad's truck as i'm an auto technician in my civilian job.
Duplicate post.
come this july, i will have been out of the jw's for 20 years.
and it has been quite a long time since i've really spent any serious time studying up on jw news and doctrines although i do still read here occasionally.
but after today looks like i've got some work to do.. my first sergeant called me this morning asking for my help to fix his dad's truck as i'm an auto technician in my civilian job.
Here are some reports on the Child Molestation issue from different news reporting agencies around the world.
Edit: I see that some of the Videos below have posted as embedded, but others are blue links that will ask you for a player when you click on them. Windows Media Player seems to work. Other players may too.
NBC News Dateline,
Fifth Estate, Canada
http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/2002_Fifth_Estate_Spiritual_Shepherds.wmv
From Australia,
