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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne in
1. social
2. current
mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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"Please continue to pray incessantly for the brothers and sisters who went through this traumatic experience..."
and
"We are convinced that Jehovah is our secure refuge in times of distress."
Pray for the ones who went through this experience? It's a little late isn't it, since the main ones who went through this 'traumatic experience' are now dead. A lot of good being at a KH meeting did them, where Jehovah's angels did not protect them.
And "Jehovah is our refuge in times of distress?" Really? It doesn't always work, does it?
What empty language.
Is that letter actually real? It's from Watchtower, so I suppose it could be.
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A Rare Response to being Disfellowshipped
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
to most, being disfellowshiped is a terrible loss of friends family and god's perceived approval.

but not to mark jones.

in his words..... the best way i can describe it, is like when you leave highschool for the last time.
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Blondie: ...Israelites were put to death, thus their family could not talk to them. That the disfellowshipped should be considered as dead. Did anyone else hear that?
Absolutely, I remember that. JWs are taught that 'if you are disfellowshipped you are dead in God's eyes and you are dead to us too,' thus they are not allowed to speak to a df'd person, not even their own family.
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Five members of Jehovah's Witness congregations across Pennsylvania charged with sexual abuse of children
by was a new boy in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
https://www.fox43.com/article/news/crime/sexual-abuse-of-children-jehovahs-witness-pennsylvania/521-1d54cc2e-3ec6-4d20-b67a-fc3c5e8f2580.

https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/2023-02-07-presentment-2_7_23.pdf.
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From the first link in the opening post...
Victim advocacy group Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) said the organization itself needed to be held accountable.
"Officials within the faith that knew of this abuse did nothing. To me that’s complicit. And being complicit in crimes like these is sometimes as equal to the crime itself," said SNAP Communications Manager Mike McDonnell.
Amen to that. The Watchtower Organization is complicit in these crimes - because of it's child sexual abuse policies, including failure to report CSA to authorities - and definitely needs to be held accountable.
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Are the statistics out yet?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
isn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?

or have they stopped publishing it?

did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?
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@ Disillusioned JW,
Thanks for all the information on the growth of nondenominational churches. That was very enlightening.
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Just courius, some questions about the past
by Gorb in
1. jw
2. friends
curious.

time goes by so fast.

who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?
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amazing how Jesus and Jehovah "directed" all this information that got changed.
That's right. The Watchtower organization has been God's spirit misdirected organization since 1919!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Thank you Toblerone5 for the explanation. I didn't realize you were doing this in French. What a headache it must be. Smiles!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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@ Kimsilvio: Got it. Thank you!
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Just courius, some questions about the past
by Gorb in
1. jw
2. friends
curious.

time goes by so fast.

who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?
ScenicViewer

"...I remember the generation change...it went from being of understanding age in 1914 from being born in 1914..."
There was a another, smaller change in there too. At one time the 'age of understanding' was said to be "about 15 years old." That was later changed to being 10 years old, which bought Watchtower a few more years.
In those days Watchtower said you had to be old enough to understand that Bible prophecy about the last days was being fulfilled, at least have a very basic understanding of it, to be of the generation.

Then the age of understanding was dropped completely and it was being born in 1914 that counted. Of course that failed too.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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@ Toblerone5
...he was never an Elder...
Sometimes I have a difficult time understanding your posts, so I have to ask, are you saying that Lloyd Evans was never an elder?
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The Gospel According to Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
mark jones explains the watchtower gospel much better than i can.. "the good news that christians in the first century preached was the birth, death and resurrection of jesus christ; that all those who believed in him were saved and reconciled to god through the death of his son.. unfortunately jehovah’s witnesses) have been led to believe it is something bizarrely different.

the good news according to the watchtower society is as follows:.

the the good news (according to jehovah’s witnesses).
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Got it. Thanks.
Their ideas about the 'ending of the Gentile Times' are totally useless. Regardless of when the Gentile Times supposedly ended JWs were banned in Russia just a few years ago, and are banned in several other countries as well. How could that be possible if the Gentile Times have ended and God's Kingdom has been ruling since 1914 (or 1934)?
What nonsense they teach!