i am having a conversation with a jw and they say you can not be disfellowshiped for this.
is this true?
i thought you can be disfellowshiped for this.
...had some free publications posted to me. I asked Don Maclean, one of the branch committee if that was ok, and he said it was fine.
I wonder how Maclean would square having other religions' publications sent to you with the strong admonition of not accepting other religions' literature at the door. Sometimes people will say 'I'll take your Watchtower if you will take my literature,' and we were always told to never take it.
Another curious Watchtower double standard?
let the reader use discernment:.
i was disfellowshipped in june of last year.
while i've been awake for nearly a year, i still often feel groggy.
An aside...
thebrokenkite: We were the third apostate party at the apostate party.
I like your way with words!
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
I'm not a big fan of invading the Kingdom Hall like this but this particular protest was handled better than most I've seen.
Those were my thoughts exactly.
If the protesters would have dressed in "meeting clothes" the JW audience would have been more likely to identify and sympathize with them because they appeared to be "one of them" rather than dismiss them as scary apostates.
Very thoughtful post Pete Zahut!
just came from the one day -- like to call it that cause everything is a changin.... this question would be directed to someone who worked in accounts for an assembly of maybe 1700 in attendance (recently) in a small town, about 2 hours from a main city.
the accounts report was read and it was a stunner..... i guess i could call the location and see how much it costs to rent this arena for a day and see but i was wondering why would they send a large amount of monies to the wt and say we are short on contribution???.
anyb ody know - i do know about monies going for child abuse court problems they are having - latest one in canada where there us a class action suit being brought by trey bundy... plus the so called out of court settlements worldwide.. arc, britain, etc...so i know that end of it - just wondering why they are sucking /lying to support the www... .
Why doesn't the WTBT$ just tell their members that there's a $10 fee to attend?
It would be the same thing alright, but Watchtower has always made a big deal of the 'Admission is Free, No Collections taken' type of promotion. I believe this goes back to C.T. Russell's time and continues to today. (Below is a typical invitation - from N.H. Knorrs's era.)
So to get money they have to get sneaky about it and charge a per-publisher fee that average publishers have no idea that they are paying.
i'd like to show you a short video i made about exjw activism in poland.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt3qdtyxgd8.
i'm one of the people responsible for those information campaigns/protests, so you can ask me anything you like.
there's a lot i didn't show on the video because of the limited time i have for editing, i have tons of footage more.
...hopefully this video shows that it can be done in a peaceful, dignified manner.
Mission accomplished. That was a pleasure to watch.
From the video:
...aggression and abuse will lead to nothing; only a peaceful spirit and solid arguments can help.
The woman in the video speaking the above words, and the man next to her, were dignified, calm, and appealing, as were all the participants. What a great example of how this kind of work should be done.
crime.
daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.
there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
Another double.
I don't see it happening to anyone else's posts so maybe there is an issue with my computer. I will turn it off, give it a rest, and see if it still happens.
crime.
daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.
there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
I asked you a specific question. Do you want me to repeat the the question to you? Did you understand my question to you?
This is what you have stated: "Watchtower and ask for the list, the database of child molesters they compiled years ago"
Are you saying that you know that "Watchtower" has a database of child molestors? That is my question to you. Yes or No?
You are so precious.
crime.
daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.
there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
crime.
daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.
there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
I tried to warn you but you just had to feed the troll and now look how far he gets you from the subject matter.
Yes, that's how Fisherman works.
He knows about the things he asks about, he's just wasting your time.
I get that too, but I still believe that in a left handed way Fisherman is an asset to helping a lot of good hearted JWs wake up. The longer he argues the more silly his arguments become.
crime.
daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.
there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
Do you know that wt has a database of child molestors? I want to know what you know.
Watchtower sent a letter to bodies of elders, in the USA as I recall, requesting that information. A few months later they sent a follow up letter reminding the elders to compile it.
Watchtower has acknowledged having it. In one court case, when asked to produce it, they replied that it would take too long to get to it. That didn't hold up, but by making the argument they were agreeing they had it.
Why don't you ask Watchtower for it?
