Posts by ScenicViewer

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"We don't do that" - Serena Williams talking about celebrating birthdays

by vivalavida in

i guess you can be physically out, like in a huge way, but definitely mentally in.. serena williams claims she won't be celebrating her daughter's first birthday.. i did know people like that, raised as a jw but never actually baptizing.

that didn't mean they were not messed up in the head though..

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Talk about straining the knat and gulping down the camel....if she were baptised she'd be DF right about now for conceiving the child out of wedlock.

I cant believe how backward that is. Thinking Jehovah is ok with her having a baby before marriage, but loses his shit over a birthday celebration.

Have a baby, then get married, no problem for a jw! But to celebrate a birthday for a lovely child is a huge no no for a jw! wtf

A married ... 'elder', in a Texas congregation was having an affair with a married 'sister' in the congregation. ...he could be heard by all in the congregation telling the EMT's "No blood! No blood! I do not accept blood!"

May be WT came up with a new light that children could be borne without wedlock but celebrating birthdays is still demonic ?

Yes Yahweh will cast down burning stones from heaven onto children if they celebrate a child's birthday.

All keen observations of JW double standards. It's a great reminder of what Watchtower's heavy indoctrination can do to people's common sense.

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Article: Philadelphia Inquirer - Ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses to protest sex abuse scandals at Pa. convention

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse-protest-reading-chessa-manion-20180824.html.

ex-jehovah’s witnesses to protest sex abuse scandals at pa. convention.

by david gambacorta, posted: 2 hours ago .

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Doubter:

You cannot both maintain and destroy child abuse records at the same time.

Of course you can. Different records in different places.

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Suicides

by new boy in

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i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

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However what can you do to sisters? Take their position of oversight away or not let they give a prayer in the KH anymore.

There is more to it than that. If the husbands refused to speak to you but their wives did there could be some serious consequences for the wives, from marital problems to congregation issues. You are outting the ones who were nice to you - isn't that backwards?

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No meetings memorial week

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

the august monthly announcements letter, among other things, says that if a memorial is midweek, there is to be no midweek meeting and if at a weekend, then no weekend meeting.

previously it was only no other meeting on the same day.

is this because so many congregations now share halls that scheduling it has become almost impossible?.

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Decreasing the 'workload' on the rank and file seems to be the organizational trend.

- Less hours to be a Regular Pioneer.

- Just 30 hrs (I think) to Auxiliary Pioneer in the Spring months.

- Only 2 days per week to attend meetings since the Home Book Study was dropped.

- Less days of Circuit Assemblies - just one day each now.

The driving time/miles is a real issue for some with the consolidations now, so maybe the organization is easing up a little to compensate. After all, the fewer meetings you attend that week the more likely you are to make the Memorial. Maybe they are even after a new 'peak' in attendance - or it's just to keep the attendance numbers from dropping (I'm not up on that - Have Memorial attendance numbers been holding steady?)

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Simon, is it possible to add an "Underline" button to options?

by Wonderment in

simon, is it possible to add an "underline" button to the available options?.

thanks again for this site!.

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I wonder if Control-U works on a PC?

Edit: I should say it does!

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Are YouTube take-downs a "Waste of time"?

by Fay Dehr in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8wwsqq/youtube_takedowns_a_waste_of_time/?utm_source=reddit-android.

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YouTube Videos exposing JW organization are growing in popularity by the day.

And I am amazed at the quality of the people presenting the videos. They are intelligent, well spoken, know the Organization, and make lots of sense. I honestly believe that Watchtower is losing it's very best people.

I can't nearly keep up with them all - I'll have to check out TellTale Athiest since I've never heard of him/her.

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Are YouTube take-downs a "Waste of time"?

by Fay Dehr in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8wwsqq/youtube_takedowns_a_waste_of_time/?utm_source=reddit-android.

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I believe that Watchtower, trying to fight against the internet, is demonstrating that the leaders realize the religion extremely vulnerable. They know, in my opinion, that they don't have the *truth* and are merely trying to survive as a viable religion.

Taking down Youtubes and other information is a losing battle for them, but they would lose faster if they didn't do it. The JW speaker in the video is arguing against such behavior, but that is typical of Jehovah's Witness double talk - say one thing for public effect, then do the opposite.

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Yes the WTBTS wrote this stuff

by Giordano in

this was posted about two years ago.

we have a lot of newbies who deserve to know what the society actually printed.. yes really.

after meticulous research here are the documented scientific pronouncements from the wtbt$.. note: the golden age became the awake magazine.. the reference twtp is the way to paradise a 1924 book by w. e. van amburgh, who was the secretary/treasurer of the watchtower bible & tract society for 43 years.

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“Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925..................The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imagination beyond reason......”WT Aug 1 1926 pg 232

It seems that Watchtower has had plenty of experience, from way back, blaming it's own followers for it's wrong predictions rather than owning them.

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A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses

by Incognito in

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i haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).

cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.

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...at no time would any CEO or company head of a massive corp be readily available just to chat with a walk-in without a formal appt.

Romy made a stunning point when she said that JWs spend thousands and thousands of hrs (actually it's millions of hrs) worldwide going to people's doors expecting the house holders to talk to them, yet here Romy was at the world headquarters of JWs and she could not get one single person to speak with her.

This shows an extreme double standard on the part of JWs, and it's coming from the very top of the Organization.

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Medical prohibitions leading to documented loss

by Vanderhoven7 in

other than general cases involving blood prohibitions...are you aware of instances of jws or exjws who have suffered health issues as a result of obedience to wts medical dictates?.

i'm thinking specifically of those who were denied vaccinations or organ transplants and i would also include those who were denied hemophelac preparations from 1975 - 1978.. any known or documented examples would be appreciated..

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Hoser: I would say that the jw ban on using tobacco has been a benefit to health

There is another side to this. It brings to mind another medical prohibition that has caused suffering for some - not being allowed to use a Nicotine Patch (I think it's called). Some people use them to help to break the smoking habit, but Watchtower prohibited their use years ago, saying we must rely on "holy spirit" to give up tobacco.

Some could not break the habit and were disfellowshipped. There are some people who can't cope with being shunned and isolated which sometimes leads to suicide.

I doubt there is any way that deaths from banning the Nicotine Patch can be tracked, but it's another harmful Watchtower medical directive.

(Has this prohibition changed in recent years?)