ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
From the OP,
...could it be they are hiding some things within the GB itself ... who might have had some serious allegations made against them...
The Organization has admitted that "some who have been prominent in Jehovah's organization" have been involved in the practice of child molesting. Notice the word 'practice' is used, which means more than a one time offense.
The Organization doesn't say who the "prominent" ones are.
https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.
to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".
september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.
The pages below are from the 2010 edition of the Shepherding book. I'm not sure if there is a later version.
Chapter 5, par 14, bullet 4 (continued on second scan below).
Chapter 5, par 15
announcement: pedophilia: lawsuit against the watch tower in quebec, canada: need ex-jws presence at the montreal courthouse if you can: dec. 3, and more importantly dec. 17 and 18, 2018, probably 9am to 5pm.
more details will follow.
no need to be a victim.
Is this the $60 million class action suit that was filed a few months back, or is it a different case?
http://www.recordonline.com/news/20180904/watchtower-disputes-200k-tax-bill-from-newburgh.
town of newburgh — the watchtower bible and tract society of new york is challenging nearly $200,000 in fire and other special district taxes assessed for three town of newburgh properties, including two hotels the organization bought to house volunteers helping build its world headquarters in warwick.. in a petition filed in orange county court last month, the umbrella organization for jehovah’s witnesses claimed that the town “either unintentionally as a mistake or intentionally and without lawful authority” miscoded the former hilton on crossroads court and the former hampton inn on route 300 for 2016, 2017 and this year.. with a combined market value of nearly $23 million, the hotel properties were not assessed town, county and school taxes for those years.
but the town assessed $196,000 charges for the orange lake fire district and lighting and water districts during those years.. newburgh also assessed $1,600 in special district taxes over three years for a vacant commercial property watchtower owns at route 17k and route 300.. “petitioner would not be required to pay the resulting unjust charges if its exemption from taxes had been justly, correctly, and lawfully granted and administered,” watchtower’s attorneys wrote in the organization’s petition in county court.. watchtower bought the two hotel properties in 2014 as it built its 1.6 million-square-foot headquarters on kings drive in warwick.
Tax exemption was granted for...
...property owned by a religious organization but used for residential purposes. That exemption still required the payment of special district taxes.
Since the bldgs were used for "residential purposes" it appears that Watchtower got the tax exemption they should have gotten. If a fire had broken out they would certainly have expected the local fire dept to come to their rescue.
It'll be interesting to see how this turns out but it seems like Watchtower should pay the tax.
about a year ago i started going to a local christain church.
they were good to me.
i missed the the jw type of always find some one to hang around with.
...after that Texas church shooting there is about 5 members that carry.
How do the members that carry handle going onto school grounds for church meetings? Just curious here.
about a year ago i started going to a local christain church.
they were good to me.
i missed the the jw type of always find some one to hang around with.
Of course all schools in the USA are GFZ so I will never go on the school grounds.
Why can't you go into a GFZ - are you always packin'?
https://international.la-croix.com/news/jehovahs-witness-leader-urges-elders-to-destroy-sex-abuse-records/8188#.
a california court fined only $2,000 to the wt for not releasing records of 775 sex abuse cases?
they should have made the fine 20 million +.
Who has the information that the Governing Body is flying first class?
The link below is from JWSurvey and relates to a GB member flying business class, a step above first class.
The link may not be clickable, in which case you'll need to copy and paste it into the address line of your browser.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/no-expense-spared-governing-body-members-do-fly-business-class
i guess you can be physically out, like in a huge way, but definitely mentally in.. serena williams claims she won't be celebrating her daughter's first birthday.. i did know people like that, raised as a jw but never actually baptizing.
that didn't mean they were not messed up in the head though..
Talk about straining the knat and gulping down the camel....if she were baptised she'd be DF right about now for conceiving the child out of wedlock.
I cant believe how backward that is. Thinking Jehovah is ok with her having a baby before marriage, but loses his shit over a birthday celebration.
Have a baby, then get married, no problem for a jw! But to celebrate a birthday for a lovely child is a huge no no for a jw! wtf
A married ... 'elder', in a Texas congregation was having an affair with a married 'sister' in the congregation. ...he could be heard by all in the congregation telling the EMT's "No blood! No blood! I do not accept blood!"
May be WT came up with a new light that children could be borne without wedlock but celebrating birthdays is still demonic ?
Yes Yahweh will cast down burning stones from heaven onto children if they celebrate a child's birthday.All keen observations of JW double standards. It's a great reminder of what Watchtower's heavy indoctrination can do to people's common sense.
http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse-protest-reading-chessa-manion-20180824.html.
ex-jehovah’s witnesses to protest sex abuse scandals at pa. convention.
by david gambacorta, posted: 2 hours ago .
Doubter:
You cannot both maintain and destroy child abuse records at the same time.
Of course you can. Different records in different places.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
However what can you do to sisters? Take their position of oversight away or not let they give a prayer in the KH anymore.There is more to it than that. If the husbands refused to speak to you but their wives did there could be some serious consequences for the wives, from marital problems to congregation issues. You are outting the ones who were nice to you - isn't that backwards?
