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  Glaring Mistake In RNWT And Todays WT

  by piztjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  todays' wt had this sentence in one of the paragraphs....we know this because each of their individual names are indelibly written upon the 12 foundation stones of the heavenly new jerusalem.rev.

  21:14.. the cross reference lists judas iscariot as one of the twelve.

  so with one breath they have said judas was cursed as jesus betrayer, and yet in their rnwt they still cross reference him in the list of the twelve named foundation stones of nj.

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  breakfast of champions

  Interesting. Will take a look at this. . .
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  The new light changes from the draw close to Jehovah printed form vs online form.

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the changes are in paragraph 7 and 8 in the first chapter of draw close to jehovah book, and i fail to see any doctrine change, only the gb trying to cover up possible mistakes they've made and potential embarrassment of worldly sources knowing what jehovah's name means while they were wrong.

  let's examine this new light they quote with this letter.

  let's see a word for word comparison on what many will be talking about in meetings about the wonderful new light and evidence that they are the faithful slave...... .

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  breakfast of champions

  Yeah, was wondering that myself, EOM. . . .
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  New here

  by winnie12 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey i'm new here, i've been reading up so much here and on other sites about tatt and it has really settled a nagging feeling of doubt within me.

  truly i have been lied to and have been trapped in this cult.

  i've been suffering with depression, anxiety, attempted suicide, hospitalization, anti depressants, loneliness all this while being in supposedly surrounded by "the happiest people" on earth.

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  breakfast of champions

  Welcome!

  Sounds like a good plan - good thing your father isn't "in the truth" - that should make things somewhat easier. All good advice above: try to stay below the radar, avoid talking to anyone about your "doubts" ( no matter how difficult it is ), and most importanly, go to university and do your best at whatever you really love to do.
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  Congregation By Laws?

  by tootired2care in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps this was already discussed in another thread, if so i apologize in advance; but i was visiting some family several months back and we get into a conversation about their local congregation.

  one of my family members helps with some of the book keeping in that congregation.

  after a while he started talking about how the elders received some wierd letter from the society stating something to the effect that the congregation must put together or enforcing something for "corporate by laws" or "congregation by laws" - i'm not sure which.

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  breakfast of champions

  Anyone have a PDF or photocopy of the "by laws" BOBCAT cites in this thread?

  Just curious. . . . .
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  Awake

  by Marcial in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectid=398787&partid=1&searchtext=vase+athletes&page=1.

  comparez avec la page 29 de watchtower 01/octobre /2002.

  fideles dans les petites choses ...oui pas en publiant des images truquees comme celle-ci.

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  breakfast of champions

  He's saying that WT edited out their genitalia - which upon CLOSE examination is evidently the case!

  Good eye.
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  Awake

  by Marcial in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectid=398787&partid=1&searchtext=vase+athletes&page=1.

  comparez avec la page 29 de watchtower 01/octobre /2002.

  fideles dans les petites choses ...oui pas en publiant des images truquees comme celle-ci.

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  breakfast of champions

  Autrement dit, "les ouefs" n'existent plus. . . .
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  COMPETITION IN THE CONGREGATION!

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there always seemed to be a level of unspoken competition within the congregation.

  wether it be between elders, ms, pioneers, etc... who's kids are doing more, who gets more hours out, who comments the most or the best, who gives the best parts, whos kids are the best, who has the better car, who has the better house, who has the better job and so on... it's not openly discussed but you can discern it through conversations, sometimes you can hear undertones of jealousy or meddling in others business, this always bothered me!

  if this is gods organization whats with all the jealousy and competiton, i would see other religions or organizatons with less of these issues and question it!.

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  breakfast of champions

  NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  Say it ain't so!!!

  [good observation]
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  The " HIGHER EDUCATION" thread!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. friends

  alright.

  let's have the ultimate discussion on "higher education.

  " let's talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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  breakfast of champions

  Name: Breakfast of Champions

  Age: 40+

  Level of Education: High School

  College: Some (started in 2011)

  Employment: Full time (but soon to change. . . )

  When I was in high school and trying to decide what to do with my life, my evil, worldly father (who was soon to be destroyed at Armageddon) gave me some of the best advice you can give anyone with regards to education: You are going to have to work at least 40 hours a week for the rest of your life, so you might as well be doing something you like, and make the most money you can doing it. So go to college!

  My JW mother would sick the congregation elders on me constantly over the college issue, and they had a million reasons why college was such a terrible idea:

  It would show that I am spiritually weak

  Girls would be constantly throwing themselves at me trying to get laid

  You'll get into drugs

  Armageddon would come while is was in college and it would be difficult for god to sort me out from the rest of the worldlings in the 400 seat lecture hall

  This system is about to end and you would be BLOOOOODGUILTY if you don't pioneer

  You're just greedy and you want to make lots of money

  etc... . . .

  The pressure was constant, unrelenting. On the other hand, my evil worldly father never pressed the issue (I kind of wish he had!) and so I pioneered out of high school. I literally (I am not making this up) had nightmares of being on campus when Jehovah rained fire and brimstone down on us- this is the level of indoctrination and mind control we are talking about here. I actually feared going to college.

  Not to mention my father would most certainly be killed in Armageddon, because I was pleasing men, and he would never be motivated to accept the "truth." My father in now into his late 70's.

  If you want to know what I'm doing now, see my thread Big Changes
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  Raised On the Third Day?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have some potentially controversial questions.. i have always wondered about these things in the back of my mind, but i would immediately dismiss them.

  now i am giving myself permission to explore them further.... a lot of attention is given to how big the sacrifice was on the part of jesus and god when jesus laid down his life.

  as the story goes, jesus gave his life for our sins and then was miraculously raised back to life a couple of days later.. consider this.

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  breakfast of champions

  If a thousand years if as one day to god, what is three days?
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  Guns

  by Brother Mike in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know why people say as jws you can't have guns.

  i've asked people at the hall and they say jws aren't supposed to have guns.

  i asked them why, and they all say just because we're not supposed to.

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  breakfast of champions

  Where I live, guns don't seems to be a problem.

  And I live in the NYC metro area!