Posts by mummatron

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Need Opinions -- Engaged to a JW!!

by junebug_11 in

ok, quick run down of my situation.. .

1. i am not religious.

my now-fiance was raised jw but left the religion about 10 years ago.. 2. we started dating last march, i got pregnant within two weeks.

mummatron

Hi Junebug_11, and a big welcome to the forum!

I also have a baby born this past December who we came close to losing at birth and has been seriously ill since (she’s doing well now though). So I can understand how much worry and stress you both will have been under. It sounds as though the thought of potentially losing your beautiful little boy was enough to frighten him into returning to the JWs. The ‘resurrection hope’ is the sharpest tool at the JWs disposal for drawing people into the organisation and targets people when they are at their most vulnerable. My father’s side of the family converted after having been bereft of 2 children. It’s possible that your fiancé may even be feeling guilty about having left the religion and feel that what happened to your baby was somehow a punishment for his lifestyle, or a test of his faith – that’s the manipulative effect of having been brought up as a JW can have on your thought patterns.

I’d suggest that maybe some counselling sessions that you both attend together may help you both to discuss your fears regarding your son and how you both feel about the forthcoming marriage in a neutral and calm environment before either of you commit to baptism/reinstatement and marriage.

Also, you might want to consider stopping attending meetings as before long you will find that the JWs will begin piling on the pressure to get you studying and eventually considering baptism!

Love Mummatron x

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I hate JW jargon!!! (Alternatives please!)

by VampireDCLXV in

all of us who have any ties to the jws know that they have their own vernacular, their own slang.

sure, there are formal titles that we can't really get away from: pioneer, ministerial servant, elder, ______ overseer, governing body, the (watchtower) society, etc.

but there are plenty of other bits of parlance they use that i can do without.... for example:.

mummatron

new light = polishing a turd

faithful/zealous = brainwashed/blinded by 'the light'

field service = bible bashing

I hate JW-speak too. Makes me cringe when out in public with my parents and they use those terms as half the time my partner hasn't a clue what they're on about.

I prefer to use those terms in inverted commas when I write them on here.

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I had an emotionally abusive and sometimes physically abusive father

by gubberningbody in

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friends

he is/was a big man, intelligent affable and charming at times and yet inconstant and scary at other times.. years later in explanation to me he said.... "you know i loved you.".

i said in reply:.

"what does that matter if i didn't feel loved?".

mummatron

Been there...and people now wonder why I'm shy, quiet and overly apologetic about anything and everything.

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Oh no, someone's dissed us to the FBI !!

by Simon in

dear sir,.

a complaint has been registered against you with the federal authorities in the usa.. the complaints center on slander and character assassination emanating from members posting on your jehovah's witnesses network forum, and online stalking.

all details have now gone to the fbi on federal plaza in new york for their immediate attention.. ([email protected]).

mummatron

In most countries slander and defamation of charater are civil (not criminal) matters and certainly wouldn't warrant any police/FBI/criminal justice bureau involvement. Aliveinrussia has no idea how the law real-World works - definitely a J-Dub!

Simon, perhaps you should suggest that if they wish to police the Internet and restrict freedom of speech, then perhaps they should go work for the Chinese government!

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What would man be without woman

by Star tiger in

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i know from my own experience that i would be a total f**k up, i would have taken the entire family into the borg, after my guilt after leaving this several years ago i am totally grateful to her for the rejection of my previous beliefs, i would have subjected the children to all the self esteem eroding ideas of a few old men in the governing body!.

i think i'm probably now a humanist, with respect for the here and now and trying to cope with the idea that people don't live forever as i see it in my weekend job of working in a nursing home, and feeling utter disgust at the governing bodies ideas at immortality which were totally wrong!.

i think it was robin williams that said if women were in control there would be no wars but intense negotiations every thirty days, lol.

mummatron

However, I do find that working in a predominantly female industry that women as very hostile to one another

Yep, they can be quite bitchy, competetive and jealous which is usually down to their own insecurities. The crazy thing is that most women have the same insecurities, so the whole issue of hostility is a moot point!

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"Friend" me!

by Mad Sweeney in

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if we "know" each other here and we're not yet fb friends, please feel free to "friend" me.

i think i'm the only mad sweeney on there.. if/when you send the friend request, let me know who you are here on jwn, because i don't generally accept requests from people i don't know from online.. thanks!.

mummatron

Alrighty then!...

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Am I nuts or something?

by Terry in

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friends

i retired in the middle of may.. i know many of you would love to have endless free time on your hands too.. right?.

ummm, well..... i'm use to being very active.

i use to stand on my feet eight hours a day.. at the bookstore i'd have to squat, stoop, stretch, lift, walk.. i had to sort, answer question, make change.

mummatron

Not nuts at all. It would be very interesting for the socio-anthropological perspective as well as for the theological.

I have lots of unanswered questions about Mormonism, such as why are their elders so young, and if caffeine is forbidden, why do they eat chocolate seeing as it contains naturally occurring caffeine?

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LOOK WHAT I GOT!

by Found Sheep in

this says "learn to think".

cult survivor.

happy ex-jw.

mummatron

Wow! Nice, love it.

BTW I love your haircut it really suits you...and now you have me considering going for the chop, LOL.

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Parallels to The Borg in movies?

by fade_away in

hope y'all don't mind if i ghost write this post for my husband.... i recently let my friend borrow my copy of the movie "the island".

for those who haven't seen it, the plot takes place in a futuristic setting in los angeles where science has perfected human cloning.

the latest rage in medicine is to have a clone made and maintained for you should you ever need it for organ transplants.

mummatron

Good selection Mickey Mouse.

Son of Rambow - one of the main characters is part of the Plymouth Brethren. When I saw it the restrictions, Elder set-up, women wearing head coverings and how they view outsiders as 'Worldly', reminded me very much of being in the bOrg.

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Hi, Newbie Here

by Iseenow in

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friends

well i have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and have finally decided to create an account.

just wanted to introduce myself and relate my life story in the borg, specifically from the past few weeks- which i think has been a lot easier than many on the board.

anyway, my mum began to study when i was 10 (2005) and since then has been babtized; she strongly believes it is the truth.

mummatron

Hiya!

I'm also in the UK. I got baptized at 18 because I succumbed to the peer pressure from my fellow JWs. It is the biggest regret of my life because the majority of my JW family will not have any contact with me. I also had doubts and each time I raised them I was met with explanations such as "it's demons at work trying to tempt us away from the truth" and "I don't know but I guess that's something Jehovah will reveal to us in the new system". Those doubts ate away at me and all I saw around me in the congregation was nothing but hypocrites, gossips and a distinct lack of this so called "brotherly/sisterly love". I became inactive at 19 and was eventually disassociated at 21.

Like the other posters have mentioned, it's worth waiting until you're older before making such a life-changing commitment as baptism because it will affect you somehowfor the rest of your life. After all, at 16 you can't vote, get a credit card or mortgage, marry without parental consent or drive, so you certainly don't have to let anyone pressure you into baptism before you're 18. Even if you do come across as being more mature than many adults! I definitely recommend getting a good education and figuring out what you want to do for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week for the next 50ish years. I'm fortunate that I took A Levels and went to Uni as I've always had my qualifications to fall back on and never had to struggle financially like my parents did.

I'm sure you'll get good GCSE results as your English writing is articulate and displays good critical thinking. What subjects did you take? I'm nosey as I'm part-way through re-training to become a secondary ICT teacher.

Mummatron