Don't know when I said numbers make it right, still thinking, that is your own comment. What I said was that the very large numbers of Catholics and Christians that exist today are the result of the Church's activity over a couple thousand years. Therefore, something about spreading the gospel was most likely one of the things the Church was all about.
Posts by Sulla
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136Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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Elihu Books Website, Why Is Web Traffic So Limited?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini checked out elihu books, the website looks decent and the writer does his due diligence.
the next step was to look at the "message boards" which appeared to have virtually no traffic.
why is elihu a virtual ghostown, with little webtraffic, (i looked at the postboard counts)?
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Sulla
I thought he was starting his own church... I think that looking at the style and approach of successful mega-churches and Stafford might uncover a couple differences that could be important.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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Sulla
Besides, there's only one man on this earth who could write something to change the way you look at reality.
You might think that way if you stopped your education after a year in community college, SBC. I keep inviting you to engage in reality, but posting your google images makes you feel too good: confirms your old bigotry and your sense of self-worth, derived from getting rid of the JWs, all at once. Drink it up, my man.
so sulla...is your point that you just want to belong to an institution? Regarless of its perverse behaviour. We are not talking about a few perverted people...we are talking about the foundations of the institution and what they are really about.
The foundation of the institution was Jesus Christ, who I think was raised from the dead. And what they are really about? Well, there are a billion Catholics in this world and another billion Christians; they didn't all get here on their own. So, in between all the whoring and corruption, some preaching of the gospel must have happened somewhere along the line, I guess.
But with respect to institutions and their bad behavior: what am I supposed to do? If politicians are screwing interns and taking bribes, do I stop being American? Do I go look for some country where that sort of thing doesn't happen? Do you move towns every time the mayor turns out to be corrupt?
I have nothing personal against any individual prostitutes...but I do have a problem with a 'religion' running brothels. And using the income to build their churches and fund their inquisitions. And at the same time condeming the prostitutes for what they do.
When we grow up, we have to get over this thing where, every time we hear about somebody acting hypocritically, we act like our cherry just got popped and that it hurt a hell of a lot more than the girls said it would. Good family men fuck the nanny; teachers' union supporters reject school vouchers but send their own kids to private school. Good rule of thumb: people will do the cowardly, corrupt, or craven thing whenever they can. Which is always. That's life.
I think Sulla is one scary &*$# and is a good representative for all sorts of religions. In fact, this is the type of mentality that could get you elected pope!
Not sure what I did to frighten you: you haven't been threatened in any way and I haven't said I support legislation that harms you otherwise. Are you generally frightened of people with whom you disagree?
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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Sulla
Seriously Sulla...do you think the history of Catholicism is OK? And do you think they have really changed that much when it is still based on the same premise that the Pope is the Holy father in rome and he still lives is the same city that was bought and paid for by corruption and prostitution. The catholics were the biggest pimps in Italy. Until one of the popes decided it wasn't a good look.
Eh, it has its good and bad parts. But you talk like prostitutes are a bad thing...
Since you seem to brush off all the things they did, maybe you could have just remained a JW and brushed of the things they did and do. Whats the difference?
I never had a problem with the fact that some JWs are are assholes. I don't expect that any institution is going to be free from tools, perverts, assholes, or criminals. Maybe you know one? US Congress? JWN? Local PTA? PETA?
It is beyond my comprehension that anybody could escape the Watchtower with its crazy doctrines, authoritarian leadership and sickening history of child abuse and join the Catholic church with its even crazier doctrines, infallible leader and a record of child rape and cover-up that makes the borg look clean by comparison.
Well, maybe work on your powers of comprehension? Just a thought.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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Sulla
Maybe u should throw that comment at Einstein. I don't think he was much for schooling, but I could be wrong.
I could be wrong, too. Tell you what, SBC writes a paper that changes the way we look at reality and I will come here and eat my words. In public. How's that?
I think the part I had trouble with in Catholicism, which is the religion I was raised in, was Father Garvey trying to fuck all us alter boys in the ass.
So, you became a JW? 'Cause that sort of thing just can't happen in the JWs. Please. Everywhere ya' go, somebody's trying to pound you in the ass. What, you give up on football 'cause of Sandusky?
There is no getting around the fact that historically, popes were murderous nutters. Who sought nothing but power and lived by double standards.
I'm shocked? Had people killed and all that? I had no idea...
How ANYONE in this day and age would want to be a part of a religion that has condoned this really is beyond me.
Well, I'm an evil bastard. That might push a person toward Catholicism, I suspect.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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Sulla
Oh, look! Mr. Didn't-complete-community-college has an explanation! Wonder what it is?
Still thinking, looked at Hogue's web site. Big authority on Nostradamus, I see. Thanks, but I think I'll pass.
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Notes from 2 day assembly - "Thought Control"
by baltar447 inthese notes were sent to me from a close friend who is biding his time to leave.. some of this we have read about already, the demo with the two brothers and the damage control they are doing over the ridiculous generation nonsense, but the thing about "thought control"tm i had not heard before...... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.
you learn something new every day at the 'sembly.
today at the 'sembly we were educated on the importance of, and i quote, "practicing thought control" .
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Sulla
Interesting. Couple observations for y'all.
In my (Catholic) parish, population ~ 750, we are preparing to receive 20 adults into full comunion. Compare that with these JW numbers and reflect on the fact that Catholics don't give a shit whether you convert or not. The most we might do is rip off a picture from the "Greatest Man" book and put it on a poster asking if you wanna convert.
Second, the demonstration is whack, but perhaps not whack like crack. By that I just mean the JWs have always been pretty up-front about how they change serious doctrines whenever they damn well feel like it. So, for me, the idea that the average JW really outta just get over it sounds like advice given -- and taken -- by them before. I guess that is a pretty odd stwar to be breaking backs, is all.
Lat, the idea that you force yourself to do right instead of wrong in order to become the sort of person who does right and not wrong is advice as old as Aristotle. You practice virtue, he said, and eventually you become virtuous.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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Sulla
Well, SBC, the smart ones really do have a pope, looks like.
So, here's the question: do you think my cognitive ability made me Catholic, or do you think my Catholicism made me smart?
Just wondering, 'cause you seem to like mocking Catholicism; but maybe it could work for you.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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designs, who would invent a JW wife? Nobody jokes about that, it's like joking about impotence.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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Sulla
SBC, don't I owe you an insult or three? I think I do from a thread a couple weeks back when you called me a pompous fuck or something three or four times. Just in case, please go fuck yourself. Let me know if I still owe you: it's tough for me to keep track, ok?
But, to your comment wondering if all the smart kids here have a pope: it's tough to say, but I'll put my education, university, GRE scores, income, job status, and neighborhood up against the distribution on this board any day. In fact, I'll take the Catholics here as a group against the board distribution.
So, I'm thinking, yeah. Probably.