If the Number is Literal, shouldn't the Tribes be Literal as well?
If literal only Jews comprise the 144,000
You are right. And they should be all men and virgins too!!!
the speaker at the memorial tonight stated straight up that the 144,000 is a literal number as we will stop celebrating the memorial when jesus 'arrives' and takes the few remnant with him.
how can the society change the 144,000 to figurative without blowing themselves out of the water?.
If the Number is Literal, shouldn't the Tribes be Literal as well?
If literal only Jews comprise the 144,000
You are right. And they should be all men and virgins too!!!
so we have heard of an earthquake today, and possible tsunami...and immediately i am told.
" well we must be close".
it is as if the witnesses are so happy that another tragedy has occurred!
Cofty , gladly I will read your article when it gets published in the NY TIMES .
i was wondering if there was anywhere someone could point to in the bible for the watchtower belief that the great crowd is not included in the new covenant.
i know that this is their line of thinking when it comes to jesus being mediator.
they say that jesus is only mediator of the new covenant and since the gc is not under the new covenant, jesus is not specifically a mediator to them.
Why would anyone want to go?
New English Translation (NET)
10 “I tell you the solemn truth, the one who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The doorkeeper opens the door for him, and the sheep hear his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought all his own sheep out, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they recognize his voice. 5 They will never follow a stranger, but will run away from him, because they do not recognize the stranger’s voice.” 6 Jesus told them this parable, but they did not understand what he was saying to them.
7 So Jesus said again, “I tell you the solemn truth, I am the door for the sheep. 8 All who came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters through me, he will be saved, and will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come so that they may have life, and may have it abundantly.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand, who is not a shepherd and does not own sheep, sees the wolf coming and abandons the sheep and runs away. So the wolf attacks the sheep and scatters them. 13 Because he is a hired hand and is not concerned about the sheep, he runs away.
14 “I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that do not come from this sheepfold. I must bring them too, and they will listen to my voice, so that there will be one flock and one shepherd.
so we have heard of an earthquake today, and possible tsunami...and immediately i am told.
" well we must be close".
it is as if the witnesses are so happy that another tragedy has occurred!
local needs part tonight ---featuring a 5 min.
talk and showing the congregation a video (approx.
15 mins) from the gb to encourage all to go to detroit for the dc.. why?
Detroit is SAFE!!!!
it's amazing how simple the answer is and yet the watchtower organization seems completely oblivious to it.
revelation itself tells you what the number is: "a man's number", "the number of his name".
the writer of revelation spells it out and yet they don't see it!
Very instructional video. Thanks for sharing.
add your own thoughts:.
top 10 wt changes if a mexican-american brother is appointed to the gb:.
10. zoot suits are now acceptable for talks.. 9.
i know this topic has been discussed before on this forum, but as it goes in jw world we need reminders.. co said in his last talk i can't remember the title in speaking about jesus, that when jesus returned to heaven he resumed his name michael.
jesus was his earthly name.. through the entire rest of the bible after his ressurection not one reference is made about this.
case in point----when jesus oh wait michael pulled saul over and talked to him, he introduced his self as jesus.
If the designation “archangel” applied, not to Jesus Christ, but to other angels, then the reference to “an archangel’s voice” would not be appropriate. In that case it would be describing a voice of lesser authority than that of the Son of God.
The WT should explain then, based on their reasoning , how does Jesus Christ will come down with the trumpet of God if he has a smaller range than God .
New American Standard Bible
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
resurrection.
the lives of the people of arcadia, missouri, are forever changed when their deceased loved ones return.. .
so far it seems to be an interesting take on the subject.
I saw the complete first season of the French edition "The Returned" on Netflix. I'm watching Resurrection from ABC, hope aren't based on the same novel.
letting jesus refute the watch tower blood policies.
the watch tower bible and tract society represent itself as christian.. it represents its theology and policies as direct from jehovah god through his son, jesus christ.. further, the governing body of this corporation interposes itself between the mediator, jesus, and the rest of jehovah's (christian) witnesses for the purpose of "feeding them (spiritual) food at the proper time.. the official word of jesus christ is represented in the watch tower's policy on blood transfusions.. in 1998 this statement was made:.
jehovah's witnesses do not accept whole blood, or major components of blood, namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets and plasma.