U have been thinking too much again AE.... lol.. but i do agree w you, specially about tangled and the Island... i thought about the same thing when i saw them... but i know will get someone here to give us some insight.. btw... get on FB!!
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Parallels to The Borg in movies?
by fade_away inhope y'all don't mind if i ghost write this post for my husband.... i recently let my friend borrow my copy of the movie "the island".
for those who haven't seen it, the plot takes place in a futuristic setting in los angeles where science has perfected human cloning.
the latest rage in medicine is to have a clone made and maintained for you should you ever need it for organ transplants.
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I need help! i am in social limbo!
by Free!! ini was wondering if some of you can give me some advice in how to get over the fact that i feel so inadequate when trying to make new friends!!
since i left the borg i have only made about 2-3 close friends... the wts ruined my social skills and i am so depressed because i am afraid of the real world... i know i am ready to move on... but i dont know how.. i feel like i dont belong in there but i dont belong out here either... i am in social limbo.. and it sucks to have no friends.. .
when i was in i hated the weekends because i was basically forced to go to service, now i hate the weekends because if the few friends i have are busy w their families or partners i am stuck all by myself... :( please give me some pointers i feel super lonely!
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Again... thanks everyone for the advise... I think my biggest problem is that I am worry of what others may think of me because i am so naive...
I am not judgmental, never have been, that was one of my main problems when i was a JW... i couldnt get myself to judge "worldly" people... the cong thought i was being liberal... mmm
I like the idea of fake it until u make it..... maybe that would work.. i am doing my best to go out, baby steps... i cant bring myself to go to a club, not because i am judging others, but because i feel like a look like a dork, i dont know how to interact...
I am starting to make friends w people at work.... i have a corporate job (I was one of the few JWs in my congo w a college education and material ambitions, even though i didnt share those w them) and trying to go to yoga classes and some training classes for my dogs, maybe i get to know people that way... who knows... i'll keep u posted... once again thanks!
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Who has NOT read Combatting Cult Mind Control or Crisis of Conscience?
by Mad Sweeney ina lot of people here have read and highly recommend ccmc by steven hassan and coc by ray franz, myself included.
i don't know how i would have handled leaving the borg without that knowledge.. so thinking that got me to wondering, who here has not read them (or has read one but not the other), and how are you coping with exiting the borg?
did you get counseling?
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I havent! i want to, but i just dont have much time, i am reading some other stuff for my work, but i will be ordering those soon...
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I need help! i am in social limbo!
by Free!! ini was wondering if some of you can give me some advice in how to get over the fact that i feel so inadequate when trying to make new friends!!
since i left the borg i have only made about 2-3 close friends... the wts ruined my social skills and i am so depressed because i am afraid of the real world... i know i am ready to move on... but i dont know how.. i feel like i dont belong in there but i dont belong out here either... i am in social limbo.. and it sucks to have no friends.. .
when i was in i hated the weekends because i was basically forced to go to service, now i hate the weekends because if the few friends i have are busy w their families or partners i am stuck all by myself... :( please give me some pointers i feel super lonely!
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Thx everyone for answering... i am trying to do all of that... but is just awkward for me... i feel weird, like i dont know what to say because i was so sheltered i dont have the same experiences they do... i get shocked by many stupid things... because i was so used to the mind control of the WTS i guess my social skills are dead :(
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I need help! i am in social limbo!
by Free!! ini was wondering if some of you can give me some advice in how to get over the fact that i feel so inadequate when trying to make new friends!!
since i left the borg i have only made about 2-3 close friends... the wts ruined my social skills and i am so depressed because i am afraid of the real world... i know i am ready to move on... but i dont know how.. i feel like i dont belong in there but i dont belong out here either... i am in social limbo.. and it sucks to have no friends.. .
when i was in i hated the weekends because i was basically forced to go to service, now i hate the weekends because if the few friends i have are busy w their families or partners i am stuck all by myself... :( please give me some pointers i feel super lonely!
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I was wondering if some of you can give me some advice in how to get over the fact that i feel so inadequate when trying to make new friends!! since i left the borg i have only made about 2-3 close friends... the WTS ruined my social skills and i am so depressed because i am afraid of the real world... i know i am ready to move on... but i dont know how.. i feel like i dont belong in there but i dont belong out here either... i am in social limbo.. and it sucks to have no friends..
When i was in i hated the weekends because i was basically forced to go to service, now i hate the weekends because if the few friends i have are busy w their families or partners i am stuck all by myself... :( please give me some pointers i feel super lonely!
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Ughz!! cannot stand the ignorance!!
by Free!! inso, i think i am about ready to write my da letter... i am freaking done w this cult.... .
yesterday i went over to pick up some $$ from my old jw roommate (cellphone contract!
) and we started talking, since i am not df (yet) we still talk about regular stuff w/o a problem... she is almost 30, not exactly a model and not even remotely interested in going to school or getting a full time job (she wants to spend all of her time in the field circus because the end is near ::roll eyes::)... back to the story, while talking to her she started talking about this brother she rejected like 2 years ago, but now she wants him back because she realized she is not going to find another man with such a small pool of options... the dude is almost border line apostate now (tehehehe) and rejected her... guess what was he reaction?
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So, i think i am about ready to write my DA letter... I am freaking DONE w this cult....
Yesterday I went over to pick up some $$ from my old JW roommate (cellphone contract!) and we started talking, since i am not DF (yet) we still talk about regular stuff w/o a problem... she is almost 30, not exactly a model and not even remotely interested in going to school or getting a full time job (she wants to spend all of her time in the field circus because the end is near ::roll eyes::)... back to the story, while talking to her she started talking about this brother she rejected like 2 years ago, but now she wants him back because she realized she is not going to find another man with such a small pool of options... the dude is almost border line apostate now (tehehehe) and rejected her... guess what was he reaction? she said "well, he is not good enough for me, he was born in the truth and he is not even a MS" and then she went on a rant about how a brother is not good enough because they dont have a title/reponsibility in the congo....
I thought the JW said they dont care about tittles or cleric, but rejecting or taking shoot about someone because they are not elders or MS, that's just plain ignorant and stupid.... ahh and then another "friend" went off on me cuz they found out i am practicing yoga and thats from the devil... i told them they can shove their opinions and i dont give a rat's ass what people think specially the JW...
I cannot stand the ignorance and arrogance these people have, i mean they always talk about how they are God's chosen people and the love they have among the congo reflects that... but they are always ripping each other to pieces behind their backs and critizicing those who dont feel like wasting their time being a freaking MS, elder or pioneer... Anyone cares to share some more experiences???
Thanks for reading!! i had to vent!
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So where are you now?
by fade_away inare any of you on here not living the dreams you had as a kid because of the "no higher education" rule?.
i was a born in jw and remained one until the age of 25. by my late teens i knew what i wanted to do with my life.
i'm about to write a lengthy history explaining why i'm not currently in the carreer i wanted, so you can skip this boring story and just comment if you want to.. i was raised to be a loyal jw and since birth already had many goals chosen for me.
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Cuz is never too late!! look at me!! i am back in school and regardless of what your wifey says i do love it!! i know is going to take a few years before i get my degree and is going to be a little later than others, but it doesnt matter... we are still young and there is many things we can do!!
You know there are many great schools for graphic design and video game design... don't stop searching and dreaming!!
It pisses me off how JW keep teaching their kids to be mediocres! they are middle age window cleaners of line factory workers w no dreams! is sad for all those kids whose dreams are shattered and more when you think about how they will feel 60 years from now.... when they are old and Armagedon never came!
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I finally did it!!
by Free!! inso, even thought i faded more than a year ago, i still had my wt "library" w me, i am talking about the actual books!
dozens of them... well, this past week i have been thinking and talking to some (jw) friends and i realized i dont ever want to go back to that mess... so, i threw every single one of those books in the dumpster about 15 minutes ago... and it felt great!!
i had 3 boxes of books, i mean trash.... and it while throwing in the dumpster i promise, i felt like i was throwing my anger with it... i feel renew... ready to start the 1st day of the rest of my life!!
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YES everyone it felt GREAT!! every second of it... i know i could have sold it somewhere... but for me it was more about liberation and new starts... like sizemik said it was therapeutic.... I kept cleaning the apartment today and found some other stuff and everything went to the dumpster... it really feels like i am removing a huge burden of my back!
And Godrulz i appreciate your concern, but i will make my decisions whatever those are when the time comes and i am ready... i believe in having time for myself and finding me before i can find new beliefs (if that ever happens)....
@Fade_Away: Cuz i understand, the time will come when you will finally be able to let go.. no research no nothing, just breaking the chain and never looking back!!! Is good you are doing your research, it will help you make the decision faster!
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I finally did it!!
by Free!! inso, even thought i faded more than a year ago, i still had my wt "library" w me, i am talking about the actual books!
dozens of them... well, this past week i have been thinking and talking to some (jw) friends and i realized i dont ever want to go back to that mess... so, i threw every single one of those books in the dumpster about 15 minutes ago... and it felt great!!
i had 3 boxes of books, i mean trash.... and it while throwing in the dumpster i promise, i felt like i was throwing my anger with it... i feel renew... ready to start the 1st day of the rest of my life!!
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So, even thought I faded more than a year ago, i still had my WT "library" w me, i am talking about the actual books! dozens of them... well, this past week i have been thinking and talking to some (JW) friends and i realized i dont EVER want to go back to that mess... so, i threw EVERY SINGLE one of those books in the dumpster about 15 minutes ago... and it felt GREAT!!
I had 3 boxes of books, i mean trash.... and it while throwing in the dumpster i promise, i felt like I was throwing my anger with it... i feel renew... ready to start the 1st day of the rest of my life!! :)
Just wanted to share!!
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When You Left The "Truth" Were People Shocked?
by minimus ini faded and when witnesses realized i had abandoned the faith, they were shocked!
no one would've ever believed that i would've left!
no one!!
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YES!! i was a pioneer, serving in a foreign language cong and commented in EVERY meeting until the last day... i was "a pillar and example in the cong" (their words not mine)... when i stopped going people thought i had been tricked by a wordly guy... or (since i left right after a surgery) that one of mine non-JWs family members had authorized a blood transfusion (i am anemic from birth) while i was uncoscious and i was feeling dirty and not worthy " (their words not mine)... i moved to another city but they tracked me down... and i still get the ocassional note at my door step asking me when am i going back... that would be NEVER