Posts by bioflex

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Heaven and Hell : Life after death

by bioflex in

i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

bioflex

@Libety : If there is something cartain about God, then its that He is PRINCIPLED. Just look at our world, does any natural thing seem out of place? and it we were made in the image of God then we should surely be able to undertand and acknoledge such principles. Can you imagine our existence without rules?, if then the devil would not have been considered rebellious for wanting to partake in God's glorying.

Look at animals, would you prefer a streamlined character as they have rather than living freely just because you have to obey principles that gorvern your creation?

Without principles there would be no rules, without rules there would be no guilt/sin and without guilt/sin there would be no punishment. Which means we would have lived like animals, able to inflict harm and death upon ourselves without having to be questioned. Would you have prefered that?

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Heaven and Hell : Life after death

by bioflex in

i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

bioflex

@Terry: i dont remember saying death is another kind of life, i am saying there is another form of life AFTER death, but these two are totally different in regards to how it is lived. Its like a total different world, we cant know what is going on there likewise those who are dead cant know what is going on here on earth.

Now my saying "what if" is not about me rationalizing, i am only concerned about how people dismiss such religious talks based on physical hypothesis. U can't discern spiritual things with the physical mind.

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Heaven and Hell : Life after death

by bioflex in

i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

bioflex

@Vanderhoven7 :

Isaiah 14: ---- > you might want to read the whole chapter.

Isaiah 66: ----> and this

i would bring up others later, i could have brought up other ones too but i would have to support them from the NT.

and i would like to say this : in Matt is talks about a fiery fire being prepared for the devil and his angels, and it is in revelation too.

you do realize that it because of rebellion/ sin that is why the devil is fated to hell fire, so what makes you think it is undeserving to humans? unless perhaps you want to tell me there is no fiery hell for the devil and his angels too which would be unbiblical.

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Heaven and Hell : Life after death

by bioflex in

i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

bioflex

@Liberty : perhaps if you look into the subject of spirituality you might understand why things like this happen, and why would hitler have to come back to life? its one thing not knowing the truth and another being classified as a wicked person which hitler fits into.

Biblically it takes dedicated people, ones who are conscious of their spirirtual need to be able to discern the things of the sprirt. That is why when it happens to any radom person it has to be at the point of death cos thats the cross point between the physical and spiritual realms.

Again this is different from live people seeving visions/dellusions. God uses people who are keen on searching for truth and not any random person. I suppose if you saw a vision like that as a moslem/budhist you might use it to justify your own religion.

You can choose to believe it or not. its your choice, but know that you are not ignorant of it.

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Heaven and Hell : Life after death

by bioflex in

i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

bioflex

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Heaven and Hell : Life after death

by bioflex in

i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

bioflex

http://youtu.be/Z6RoO6rK5aw

cant seem to embed the video. sorry

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Heaven and Hell : Life after death

by bioflex in

i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

bioflex

I am starting this topic to discuss the title. I know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of God , and even JW's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.

This video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.

I just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if God is real, and what if all that which was being said about God was true" . Hope this helps whoever it may.

And one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, Jesus Christ is able to save. I only pray it would not be too late for anyone.

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Evolution Thread to continue conversation with BIOFLEX

by NewChapter in

bioflex, i am starting this thread so that the other one doesn't get hijacked.

here is where you left off.

bioflex please stop talking about evolution you are off topic and your ignorance of the subject is deeply embarassing.

bioflex

@RetroVirus : I think i understand what you mean. But all i am asking is, do you think over enough time those not-dogs could change extensively in their body structure as to be considered as totally different animals? like maybe goats?

For example, evolution is the cause of speciation, whereby a single ancestral species splits into two or more different species.<- wikipedia

from the definition above we can assume that all the animal forms in existence today have a single ancestor, so fishes, mammals,reptiles,birds and all you can think of comes from a common life form.

My problem lies in how one species can split into two or more speices on its own. I know viruses and algae can reproduce on their own but no matter how they split all the end up producing is another of their kind.

If i am correct fishes and reptiles cant interbreed so how do you prove a fish splitting to produce a reptile without these two having any kind of sexual interferance?

Is it possible that a virus through speciation and natural selection can split to form an algae or fungi?

take a look at this video

http://richarddawkins.net/videos/643369-demonstrating-an-accident-of-evolution-in-a-giraffe

i find it hard to accept that natural selection or speciation can link features of a girrafe from a fish. Its like saying evolution is the reason why dogs have tails like reptiles.

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One of the dilemma facing Christianity today.

by jam in

problem facing nearly all christians and jews today.. two related fundamental passages with the hebrew-.

christian view of the ot.

given their claim as to yahwehs.

bioflex

@ ONTHEWAYOUT : One thing you dont realize is that science and religion dont mix. Science only deals with our natural world while religion deals with things pertaining to the supernatural or spiritual. No matter how hard you try, you can never justify science with religion and vice versa.

@jam : most so called christians esp. JWs consider the bible to be mostly symbolic which is to account for most of the misconceptions and misunderstandings that plague the christian church. One thing they dont realize is that, the bible does well to explain itself.

I believe the bible to be 100% accurate. Most part of the OT is just to serve as an ensample to the christian church today. in all the most important bit is knowing that the only way of salvation is through Jesus Christ.

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Evolution Thread to continue conversation with BIOFLEX

by NewChapter in

bioflex, i am starting this thread so that the other one doesn't get hijacked.

here is where you left off.

bioflex please stop talking about evolution you are off topic and your ignorance of the subject is deeply embarassing.

bioflex

Secondly, science and evolution cannot explain the Genesis account because they have falsified the account.

So since science has falsified the genesis account how does it explain life then?. Science does not even prove the how life came about. i guess you also think you can win this aruement be default.

Also the insane diversity of animals strongly supports natural selection and speciation.

Perhaps you might want to define natural selection, without interbreeding there is no way evolution is justifiable, unless perhaps you want to tell me animals evolve on their own over periods of time how which is absurd considering factors like life span.

One thing you dont realize is that is takes two different life forms to make a new breed/species/race. i am bringing this up again : in humans is it possible that a pure breed of caucasians would birth a child of different race given enough time? its impossible.

Do you think natural selection would ever cause humans to mate with any other species? cos that is the only way you can justify humans and monkeys comming from the same ancestor. Perhaps lets just mate with chimps and see what new breed we can produce or lets wait for evolution to give us our pefect match.