Posts by bioflex

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Latest Study Article: Was Jephthah surprised at his daughter coming out?

by garbonzo in

paragraph 15: "he vowed that if god gave ammon into jephthah's hand, the first one to come out of the door when he returned home would be jehovah's.

as jephthah returned home from subduing ammon, his daughter came running to meet him.

(judg.

bioflex

Sic Semper Tyrannis:The man shouldn't have made the oath, whether or not it was his own daughter or a servant girl. It's a disgusting practice regardless of what period of time he lived in. Upon finding his daughter coming out first, Jephthah should have offered up his own sorry ass in her place.

exactly, he should not have make the oath, he thought making the oath would cause God to give him victory, he didnt know God would have given him the victory regardless of any oath.

undercover:Who the hell is Jepthah to make a promise to send his daughter into servitude at the temple for life? Who is he to deny her the choice of having a family? She didn't make any promises. She obviously didn't want to serve at the temple (and obviously wouldn't have been too keen on the sacrifice bit either, I'm sure) thus crying over her virginity (if she was even a virgin to begin with. Dad was off to war...who knows what went on in his absence...

what makes you think gender played any role over here? the outcome would have been the same regardless of who came to meet him first, it could even have been his dad or bros.

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Latest Study Article: Was Jephthah surprised at his daughter coming out?

by garbonzo in

paragraph 15: "he vowed that if god gave ammon into jephthah's hand, the first one to come out of the door when he returned home would be jehovah's.

as jephthah returned home from subduing ammon, his daughter came running to meet him.

(judg.

bioflex

Well sounds retarded right? typical of WT$ ,it baffles me how they expect people to shove things like that into their throats knowing very well that it does not make sense?

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God v religionists v atheists/agnostics v believers

by Fernando in

an effort at a summary... still learning about atheists/agnostics and what they believe at this point on the journey.... .

religionistsatheists/agnosticsbelieversthe "god of religion"embracerejectrejectsupremacist, sectarianembracerejectrejectself-righteousness via:.

embracerejectreject- legalism (rules).

bioflex

dude, your charts does not really make sense to me. What do you mean my religionist/believers?... and also about believers rejecting moralism?

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Question about the memorial :)

by TimothyT in

i have no doubt that in a few weeks when the campaign to spread memorials invites is underway that my good friend, the jw, will give me an invitation.

she has already told me that she would support me when walking in, telling me that i could sit next to her and she wouldnt give a damn what others would think that she was encouraging a disfellowshipped person.

she is very sweet, and i appreciate her thoughts.. however, i would rather not go because i believe the whole thing is done wrong anyway.

bioflex

1Co 11:23 - 26 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

I have been to the JW's memorial once and its nothing like in the scriptures above, i dont think i would ever set my foot to any one of their memorial services.

On the other hand.

1Co 11:27 - 31 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

So the question is, do you regard yourself worthy to partake in the communion?, the scripture says let each man examine himself.

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Terrible conduct by congregation Elders in hospital room !

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

my uncle was rushed to the hospital last tuesday with severe stomach pain.

(he was diagnosed with colon cancer one year ago.

the doctors, family,and my uncle decided against colon surgery.

bioflex

My uncle left no will. He didn't believe in wills. The WTS promised him that the ''new order'' was always around the corner. He passed away after serving Jehovah the Watchtower Society close to 50 years.

Who knows?.. they could be talking about property issues, how they can turn your grandfather's assets into $$$ for the WT$ and they didnt want your cousin to interfere.

I would not have left if it were me, i am in support of making news out of this, contact your local news paper and spread the stupidity that exist in the WT$. Who knows how many people you would be saving out there with similar situations.

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Did Jesus sacrifice really mean anything?

by highdose in

suspending for a minute the realisation that it never happened and instead looking at it as a beliver would.... jesus had to endure a painful death, yes.

but he knew that he would only be dead for three days and that afterwards he would get reserected and be able to mind f**k around with those who had put him to death.

and then he would live for ever in a brand new body!

bioflex

Jesus' sacrifice was for but one purpose, that we might have life and have it more abundantly, that is the promise of eternal life. The wages of sin is death. Sin seperates us from God, its like a huge gap between us, and that is why the death of Christ is necessary to reconcile us with God. Jesus says no one comes to the father except by me. Now the fact that Christ died and rose gives us the assurance of living again if we die.

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Have your faith been made stronger or made weaker since coming here?

by jam in

me personally, considerably weaker.

in fact i have.

become an agnostic.. since i discovered this site over 6-7 yrs, we have.

bioflex

@Phizzy: Just a side question that may need another thread, to believers like "Tec", why do you think God and or Jesus have granted you faith and not me ? I prayed long and hard for faith, on my knees, to Jesus and to God, ..... nothing.

Most at times its because you want to discern the things of God with the knowledge of men.

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Have your faith been made stronger or made weaker since coming here?

by jam in

me personally, considerably weaker.

in fact i have.

become an agnostic.. since i discovered this site over 6-7 yrs, we have.

bioflex

Coming to this forums is one of the best things i have witnessed, not only has my faith in Jesus/God/bible been made strong, i have also beefed up my ability to reason and discern.

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Was Judas set up?

by highdose in

the bible profecied that judas (although not named) would betray jesus.

the bible also says i think that it was the devil or gods bad spirt that enter judas and caused him to do what he did?

if judas hadn't then there would have been no betrayal and no sacrifice therefore.

bioflex

Peter was to deny Christ trice which he did, it was a prophecy which came to pass, but did Peter take his life? did he condemn himself to death. Jesus didnt even condemn Judas for what he did. Repentance is our way to salvation, it does not matter how you were before, just pray you get the chance to turn over before death gets hold of you, by then it would be too late.

Who knows if Judas would be forgiven and given a chance.

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The Two Forces

by N.drew in

the ark pictures the response to one kind.. it means the customs of the people can cause catastrophe.. and most people did not stop the destructive behavior , but some used it to be redeemed.. .

sodom pictures the other kind.. it means the people respond badly to the intuitive recognition that doom is ahead.. .

in one case what the people are doing causes something bad.

bioflex

@strymeskirules: You are spot on there, judgment is accorded after an act has taken place. That is why God allows things to happen even if the outcome is troubling.