Thanks, Blondie. Brilliant, as usual. Another one going in my favourites, for the day when I possibly show my family what I'm compiling.
Wolfgirl
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-13-03 WT Study
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 4-13-03 wt study
march 1, 2003, page 8. red highlight indicates quotes from the watchtower.
black and (parentheses) are reviewer statements.. be courageous and strong!.
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I finally let her have it...
by Wolfgirl inmy sister made me incredibly angry yesterday.
i sent her a politely worded message asking for her why she had waited 4 days to give an important message to my gran (who doesn't have email, and i don't have a phone line for long-distance).. among other things, this is what i got back:.
"i am tired of you treating me this way.
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Wolfgirl
Thank you. :)
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I finally let her have it...
by Wolfgirl inmy sister made me incredibly angry yesterday.
i sent her a politely worded message asking for her why she had waited 4 days to give an important message to my gran (who doesn't have email, and i don't have a phone line for long-distance).. among other things, this is what i got back:.
"i am tired of you treating me this way.
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Wolfgirl
Thanks for your comments and support, guys. :) I haven't gotten a reply yet, which means one of two things. Either she hasn't checked her email yet, which is entirely possible as she doesn't check them more than once or twice a week, or she has gotten it and is ignoring it. That's also very possible, because she did that when my husband sent her a message. He said he didn't understand a religion that would tell you to shun your family members, and used a couple of scriptures to prove his point. She told me later that she didn't respond because he was "rude." Of course, she didn't know that I had seen the message he sent, and he was extremely polite. She just didn't like the truth. :)
I'll keep you updated if I get a response. :)
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Then & Now
by RAYZORBLADE ini think this post may be an absolute: no brainer
personally, when i was an active naive jw, i studied the bible and could rattle scriptures off, left right and centre.
real good fundie.
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Wolfgirl
How many of you still believe in the bible?
- Nope, not really.
How many of you have moved away from it?
- Yep.
How many of you, cannot debate scripture/doctrine? (post-JW)
- I'm starting to forget where things were, but that's mainly coz I always used that bit in the back of the NWT to help me remember.
How many of you, still actively hold the bible as divinely inspired?
- Nope.
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I finally let her have it...
by Wolfgirl inmy sister made me incredibly angry yesterday.
i sent her a politely worded message asking for her why she had waited 4 days to give an important message to my gran (who doesn't have email, and i don't have a phone line for long-distance).. among other things, this is what i got back:.
"i am tired of you treating me this way.
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Wolfgirl
Sorry about the formatting. It went wonky.
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I finally let her have it...
by Wolfgirl inmy sister made me incredibly angry yesterday.
i sent her a politely worded message asking for her why she had waited 4 days to give an important message to my gran (who doesn't have email, and i don't have a phone line for long-distance).. among other things, this is what i got back:.
"i am tired of you treating me this way.
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Wolfgirl
My sister made me incredibly angry yesterday. I sent her a politely worded message asking for her why she had waited 4 days to give an important message to my gran (who doesn't have email, and I don't have a phone line for long-distance).
Among other things, this is what I got back:
"I am tired of you treating me this way. I am a human being, too."
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Don't make me laugh. I'm the shunned one. Here was my reply:
I will reply to this at the weekend. I'm too angry to answer you right now. Perhaps you should reconsider your words. After all, I'm the one who isn't being treated like a human being, let alone a member of the family.
No, come to think of it, I'm going to answer this now. It'll probably spoil whatever chances I have of ever seeing Christopher again, but I just can't believe what you just said.You know full well that the Bible doesn't agree with completely shunning your family members because they have made a different decision than you have. Jesus still associated with his family members when they didn't believe in him, and he's the son of God. Why should you be any different? The Bible says that he that doesn't love his brother isn't capable of loving God. Now, you SAY you love me, and I think you probably believe that. But you certainly don't treat me in a loving manner. You can't even be bothered to sign your emails, "Love, Wendy" anymore. I've been watching. I sign, "Love, Lisa" and get an abrupt answer in return. What the family has done to me is not love at all, and you know it. You choose to do what someone tells you to do, without even checking to see if that's really what the principles in the Bible say. You choose to act as if no one else did anything wrong.
I can speak my mind just as easily as you can. You're my sister, I should be able to tell you anything. But I've been holding back what I really know, because it would destroy your world you have so carefully built around you, and I love you too much to do that to you. If I told you what I really know and what has really been going on, you would go into shock. You would not be able to function, and one of two things would happen. You'd either spiral into confusion like I did when the truth came out for me (you don't know the half of it), or you'd push me even farther away in disbelief.
Well, I'm your sister. I love you. You choose. You can stay happily blind to the truth, and pull what you have left around you, which means pretending like you don't even have a sister who loves you. Or you can choose to treat me like a family member should.
You know what I was like as a JW. Yes, I made mistakes, but so did you. You know how hard I worked, how much I studied, how often I pioneered, how hard I tried. And you know that I am now married, so I obvioulsy am no longer doing what I was disfellowshipped for. So you should know, if I haven't gone back, there's a really REALLY good reason for it.
You decide whether you want to know it or not. But I will not be told that you aren't being treated like family when the entire family pretends like I don't exist.
I love you.
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I edited out a few bits about my family that would mean nothing to you. :)
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New funny WT and Awake pics!
by greven inthis weekend i was feeling creative and since any effort to shake this nagging feeling utterly failed, i decided to do some wt covers.
the result is now before you...they are somewhat simplistic because i did them in paint(tm), i still crave paintshop but haven't been able to get hold of it as of yet..... so here they are:.
feel free to comment or add covers of your own to this thread!
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Wolfgirl
Bahahaha! That new light one is hilarious. :)
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Women raised as JWs: Did the WTS views on women negatively impact you?
by berylblue ini'd really like to know.. my experience was that women who were raised in the "truth" and married to a good jw brother did not know how to make decisions.
from reading this board, this would, however, appear to be the least of their problems.. what specifically, if any, were the problems associated with always being told you were a second class person and not capable of making decisions?.
rosemarie
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Wolfgirl
I always had trouble with the submission thing. When I was dating one JW guy, who later became an elder, he actually said, "I don't know how to do any housework, so you'll have to do it all." I worked more hours than he did. I suggested learning how to do some of it to help out, and he refused. I broke up with him.
Lucky me...I now have a husband who comes home from work and cooks dinner for me, and helps out with the housework as well. :)
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Looking Back, What's The Stupidest Thing You Believed In As A Witness?
by minimus infor me, it's the "faithful and discreet slave class".
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Wolfgirl
That all the prophecies the WTS made came true.
That it was "the truth."
That everyone else was stupid and was going to die if they didn't become JWs.
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Wolfgirl
Thank you. :) I'm glad I'm free, but I do really miss my brother and sister. My parents...I don't really care after what they've done.