How do they make money off of this? I know in the U.S. they got peoples insurance money.
I assume there isnt insurance money in Haiti so is it just a charitable contribution in that country?
organizational accomplishments—haiti after the earthquake video will be considered the week of december 26, 2016. youtube.
How do they make money off of this? I know in the U.S. they got peoples insurance money.
I assume there isnt insurance money in Haiti so is it just a charitable contribution in that country?
i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.
i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.
i'm another born in, third generation.
Lots of good advice here. Just welcoming you to the forum.
You are not alone and please, dont be afraid. We are all here for you,
well today was the big day.
we finally let the cat out of the bag to the in-laws about watchtower.
previously there were unknown rumors being spread about me and today i found out why the wife and i are being shunned.
I believe there is a stipulation about a family member limiting association with DFd relatives to "Necessary family business."
Perhaps even though you are not DFd, your father in law has a modified form of that quote in mind?
update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.
found this awesome website where you can type two things in and compare anything in a nice neat little chart.
so, just for kicks, i typed in jehovah's witnesses vs. mormonism ... and look!
who the hell gave them the information for jws???
They cling to all of that to give themselves a legitimacy they obviously feel needs some help.
they wlll always have new people coming in but the majority of the congro's are getting older particularly the inner city ones were it is expensive to live.
they are struggling to get men to be elders and m.s's and this can only get worse as very few young ones stay around.
karter..
Island Man
As bad as the defection rate among youth is, the success rate for creating JWs from the womb is still higher than that for creating them from the doorstep. So they'll just try to increase the JW reproduction rate and intensify the childhood indoctrination process.
So, Mormonism style?
so, i joined just yesterday after coming across this forum looking at beth sarim, and i though that i would share my story with you.
it will no doubt be very similar to a lot of others, but it's a way of getting to know me at least.. i was brought up as witness from the age of 4 years old, my dad picked up the 'truth' from one of his friends in the pub and it seemed to go from there, he would quickly get baptised and progress to becoming a ministerial servant and then an elder.
from a young age i wanted to be like my dad and become a pioneer, a ministerial servant and then an elder... perhaps even becoming a co. the world, spiritually speaking, was my oyster.
Hi Sam, I love that you forged ahead until you created the life you have now. Good for you and welcome!
tyler mccumber, no, you probably don't know of him.
he may be one of jehovah's witnesses.
his dad, mark, was a member the last i knew.. .
I just got back to this thread FatFreak and I am loving your bucket list idea.
I think it is awesome!
A bucket list "potential" can still fuel our dreams and give lightness to our steps.
Hugs to you FatFreak,
i was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.
1) there are many faithful jws.
2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.
I think they will morph, rebrand and stick around. I think we see the beginnings of that now actually.
With all the older ones dying off there is no one left to fact check anything.
It will be just another religion with its own little shtick.
Neither growing (while claiming to) or diminishing entirely.
Sort of like the 7th Day Adventists.
so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.
witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.
thoughts?.
stuckinarut2
So I am wondering what it would REALLY take for a witness to wake up and question the authority?
The thing I think is most effective is an act that is perceived as blatant injustice to the individual. Once they find that no one really cares about justice or theocratic reasoning, that is their best chance at eyes opening.
If this should happen, they will naturally turn to the system in place (elders, C.O. writing a letter to Bethel) and IF that fails, it can be just enough of a crack in the facade to quickly become a gaping hole in their "faith".
The good news is the caliber of elders is dropping and the rapidity with which a person can find themselves told to shush and "go along to get along" seems to be increasing.