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DataDog, just bouncing off your questions above...
if this is a man made org. what personality type was Russell?
Rutherford?
I could go on and on but what personality types were the main ones who molded and shaped this religion?
For that matter, what would the GB members test out as?
take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.
Hi DataDog,
I am an INTJ also and your #5 as listed above gets me in to trouble on a regular basis.
Unless I just shut up altogether, which at reading here every day for 3 years and having a low post count, would indicate is ALSO part of my profile
i've been given permission to post news of our friend.. kate hasn't been very well.
not well at all.
i think much of it has been a delayed reaction to her df'ing, the general fallout when leaving the wtbs and family issues.. i just wanted to give you guys the heads up and give you a chance to show how much we care about her.. thanks for listening..
I really miss your presence.
Please feel better and remember, youve got this. You are going to be ok.
much love to you, Millie
most people here have never met you.
we converse, discuss, argue, laugh, agree, question, share our lives..... quite often, you kind of get to know what a person is like.
some people, we tend to gravitate to and others, we shy away from.. how do you think you come across to other people?
Well lets see....
in "real life" I come across as shy and qentle. Children and animals like me and I like them. I am more of an observer than a talker. I have opinions but value accuracy more than hanging on to any opinion I may hold. Show me a better way and I will embrace it.
How do I come across here? No idea really but probably pretty ho hum <----- how bout that? Pretty spicy huh?
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The secret to negotiating the rapids of being a young person in the Org is to NOT get baptized.
That limits the elders control and allows your family to still associate with you.
Bad for the Society, good for young people and their families. A win/win
the mormon leaders in virginia are deciding whether to excommunicate kate kelly for pushing for equal rights for mormon women in the church.
she wants to remain a mormon whatever the outcome of the hearing.. 800-1000 mormons held a vigil in support of kate.. the group ordain women, mormons who want change in their church structure, are active in 17 countries pushing the male dominated leaders to make this important change.. kate kelly is herself an international human rights lawyer.. church leaders site jesus only choosing men in leadership positions as their foundational support.. those interviewed at the vigil said they want an atmosphere where they can at least have conversations openly about changes they would like to see made in the church..
Another difference, her baptism is null and void now.
I never understood why you could be disfellowshipped and still baptized.
the mormon leaders in virginia are deciding whether to excommunicate kate kelly for pushing for equal rights for mormon women in the church.
she wants to remain a mormon whatever the outcome of the hearing.. 800-1000 mormons held a vigil in support of kate.. the group ordain women, mormons who want change in their church structure, are active in 17 countries pushing the male dominated leaders to make this important change.. kate kelly is herself an international human rights lawyer.. church leaders site jesus only choosing men in leadership positions as their foundational support.. those interviewed at the vigil said they want an atmosphere where they can at least have conversations openly about changes they would like to see made in the church..
Another difference, her baptism is null and void now.
I never understood why you could be disfellowshipped and still baptized.
i don't understand why so many ex jws and faders think that the jws will continue to grow and thrive as a religion.
i still attend a meeting once a week and you can smell the death of the religion creeping up when you hear the talks, read the study wts and hear the letters from the gb.
the way the organization has changed is a sign that it reached its peak (in "healthy" membership) long ago.
Pistoff mentioned #1 "keep walking away from the blood doctrine"
I was amazed recently to find out the elders manual has changed the way of handling situations when publishers take blood. Not necessarily a disfellowshipping offense.
Most may be aware of this but I wasnt. News to me!
the introduction & conclusion to this video is in german, but david splanes' words are loud and clear in english - get your kid baptized asap!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33pwdsuvlq&feature=youtu.be.
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Wow. He is SO arrogant isnt he?
I never heard him speak before this. I guess I expected some nod to humility - but no.
Just incredible.
the mormon leaders in virginia are deciding whether to excommunicate kate kelly for pushing for equal rights for mormon women in the church.
she wants to remain a mormon whatever the outcome of the hearing.. 800-1000 mormons held a vigil in support of kate.. the group ordain women, mormons who want change in their church structure, are active in 17 countries pushing the male dominated leaders to make this important change.. kate kelly is herself an international human rights lawyer.. church leaders site jesus only choosing men in leadership positions as their foundational support.. those interviewed at the vigil said they want an atmosphere where they can at least have conversations openly about changes they would like to see made in the church..
So do Mormons have to quit talking to her or is there a difference between what the Mormons do and disfellowshipping like the JWs?
