How did they possibly manage to show a 1 per cent growth in the U.S.?
Is that true?
pure speculation here but i'm wondering if - with the numbers flat-lining - that the gb will stop giving country by country stats, or perhaps at least some of the statistics.. we used to get a monthly stat in the km - then that was "simplified" to "highlights".
only the "good" stuff.
then with the new clam workbook, no stats at all.. i wonder if the yearbook will soon only contain "positive" spun stats.
How did they possibly manage to show a 1 per cent growth in the U.S.?
Is that true?
i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
I'll take door number 3!
I saw something bad happen involving elders. That wasnt what did me in though.
It was the cover up by a Circuit Overseer and the branch helping in the cover up rather than a simple straightening out of the problem.
That was my first moment of realizing the Emperor has no clothes.
Finding this site and getting facts to back up what had just dawned on me was the natural progression for me.
when you were "in" did you ever actually enjoy the ministry?
and i made no secret about it.
instead i would joke about me feather knocking, and made sure i had my bible in hand so as they come to the door they know what im about so they can shut me down before i even start.. i always wondered how or why there were people who enjoyed it.
I think it goes against the basic nature of a human to want to go up to a strangers door and talk about a topic that may/may not be controversial or well received.
That is why to get people to over ride that basic feeling you either have to give them a monetary reward (vacuum cleaner salesmen) or a prestigious status within the group they treasure (pioneer).
Everyone else just goes along to get along.
We are whipped into guilt induced cooperation by being told its the basic command of our time (Matt 24:14) and by peer pressure from family and friends in the Org.
It took being out of the Org for me to realize that the good feeling I felt after service was NOT joy from service but a giddy relief that it was DONE!
now i know i am getting older or of the older generation.
i have had a very strange day with a lot of strange dealings with people with strange behavior today but this one incident was just over the top.
so i came out of a store in a busy shopping center.
I would have been stunned too rebelfighter!
Quarterbacko
It's ok if you are Spider Man, or Superman.
Ha ha, that is a good one!
Hey Azor,
How is your dear wife today and how are you? Lots of love and support being sent your way!
i find myself still at 25 nervous around women.
i wonder is dating and marriage really worth the hassle.
?.
You are still relatively young.
Get to know women you like and let them get to know you.
Take your time.
Enjoy the process.
i'm curious if we will have eyewitness reporters at the stanley theater like we do every year....
I think there will be some experiences (stories) of Jahs direction on the sale of Brooklyn properties,
They want to reinforce the idea that this sell off and move is spirit directed.
i think that's a fair comment.
but i am not convinced by the " god" outside the w.t so far, and i think that's also a fair comment.
if god exists why does he seem a complete liability to convincing the majority of decent people i know to associate with his one true religios organisation?
I love reading such honest sincere thoughts.
Thanks everyone.
So sorry Azor. You have certainly been through it and are still facing it.
Your wife is in the best place right now as the hospital can monitor and care for her.
Good for your mom for helping you. I agree with ToesUp, dont give your heart to the silliness of family members right now.
You hang tough and please know that many here are caring about you and admiring the strength of character and love for your family that you have demonstrated over and over.
Hugs from here to you,
Millie
what do you think the jw religion will be like in oct 2021?
if we go back five years from oct 2016 you get 2011. there was no jw.org, really pretty much no tablets, most people were using paper copies for everything.
now that's all changed.
I believe the rumor we have heard that they hired a consulting service.
With that in mind I think they will start their own version of a Brigham Young University. They will convert some already existing property in to a campus OR that will be the next big building project.
Witnesses will pay tuition to get their kids a college education.
This will solve two problems for them. It will keep born in kids away from universities and will divert that income into Org coffers.
I think they will also begin offering trips to the Holy Land type travel arrangements. I dont think they will literally BE to the Holy Land - just modeled after the way religions today do those kind of travel trips.
Perhaps they will arrange conventions in odd places and arrange travel trips there. Any place they want to throw dollars at and create excitement while charging money to do it under their umbrella.
I can see them allowing for a "provision" of travel missionary" or "travel pioneer" where you pay big bucks for a trip and get to be pioneer for a day/week/month while on the cruise or flight or train trip.
It is another spin on what was mentioned in an above post $$ for service time.