Fremont Soltice parade regularly has over 20,000 people at it, and we do security for it, and never have a problem. This is 20,000+ people versus a hand full of people. Hempfest had 200,000+ people and had no significant problems.
Trauma_Hound
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Disturbances at Assemblies
by freedom96 ini remember hearing over and over about how wonderful it was to be gathered together at the assemblies, and how the brotherly love flowed, and everyone got along.. they would comment that where else could you get 10,000 and more people together where there was so much peace and unity.. we were flat out told there was no where that this occured.
that wordly people could never have that many people together, then riots would happen, fights, drunken idiots etc.. well, i have been to many busines seminars, where there are thousands of people, and they never get out of hand.
i have been to many concerts with thousands of people there, and they don't get out of hand.. how egotistical these power witnesses are to think they are the only ones that can get along peacefully.. i know there are cases of fights, or something at large events, but there has been things like that at assemblies too.. has anyone here seen fights, or disturbances at assemblies, or large witness gatherings?
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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Trauma_Hound
TH, you are such a wimp, why don't you just get a life. All upset with Prisca because she asked you a basic question which you never answered, except to say you didn't do it. Well, your previous behavior made you suspect now didn't it? So, you little wimpy man, why don't you just shut up. If I were you, I would be very embarrassed over my behavior, but of course, you have no shame, now do you?
Your logic is impectable, "asked you a basic question which you never answered, except to say you didn't do it", well isn't saying I didn't do it, answering the question moron? Why don't you take your own advise, your the one responding to something, that was never directed at you. You don't know me, no one on here knows me, and until you've walked a mile in my shoes, you will never know.
Edited by - Trauma_Hound on 18 November 2002 22:32:34
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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Trauma_Hound
Ask me if I care what you think of me Prisca, let me remind you of what you said in my guestbook on August 14th.
" Cool site! Love the pics of you and your son, I bet he thinks he has a pretty cool Dad ;-)"
Quite the contrast to the way you've treated me since.
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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TH, you are correct, you never said this exactly, but your attitude towards those who aren't in total agreement is summed up in those words.
Another lie.
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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Trauma_Hound
Well now, remember as a "Watchtower plant" I have access to many things. So your answer is not really a "no" is it?
IW, yes it is no, stop spreading lies about me! Now leave me alone!
Edited by - Trauma_Hound on 18 November 2002 21:49:23
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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Trauma_Hound
By the way, it is my impression that you actively help Bill Bowen with his site. Tell me, do you have access to the ISP addresses of those who post on his forum? Just wondering.
I have no more access then you!
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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Trauma_Hound
Really prisca, where did I say that? Where have I ever said BB was god? I get the impression that a few of you think RF is a god.
I have never said any of this.Everyone that doesn't think that BB is God must be against the Silentlambs movement.
Everyone that doesn't give BB their full support must be a WTS plant.
Everyone that dares criticise BB must be a child abuser.
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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IW, you all I asked a question, and as usual, you jump me. IW Why did RF make the comments about it then to the Media then? No comment would have been better than the one he made. It's you that seem to have this obsession with trying to bring down silentlambs, are you a WTBS plant? Because you act like it.
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Washing State Rep, purposes changes to clergy sex
by Trauma_Hound inhttp://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/nw_111702wabclergylaws.16dc2be4.html.
changes proposed in state laws to target clergy sex abuse .
associated press .
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Trauma_Hound
He refuses to back his position and instead calls names.
Oh really now? And what position do I fail to back? What thread did I start name calling in? The majority of the time, I'm defending my position, and being called names myself. Kind of like what your doing now.
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Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.
by Englishman ini see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.
also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.
it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.
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Trauma_Hound
My question to you all would be this, why is the UN scandal more important then child abuse issues?