Posts by moneypenny

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trojan Horse....can anybody help

by moneypenny in

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i recently received an alert from norton anti virus that file c:\windows\tempory internet files\conrent.ie5ktin81.2f\vcounter[1].htm was infected with a trojan horse.

i tried to repair but couldn't so i quarantined it and attempted to submit to symantec research centre......they didn't want it saying it was non repairable, they knew about it and to delete the file and replace if necessary eeeeerrrrr ddddooooo.

i sent it anyway because i didn't want it either and i'm not sure i'm capable of deleting the file.. so anyway, quarantine is now showing empty and a recent scan of my hard drive is clean.

moneypenny

I recently received an alert from Norton anti virus that file C:\WINDOWS\Tempory Internet Files\Conrent.IE5KTIN81.2F\vcounter[1].htm was infected with a Trojan Horse. I tried to repair but couldn't so I quarantined it and attempted to submit to Symantec research centre......they didn't want it saying it was non repairable, they knew about it and to delete the file and replace if necessary eeeeerrrrr ddddooooo. I sent it anyway because I didn't want it either and I'm not sure I'm capable of deleting the file.

So anyway, quarantine is now showing empty and a recent scan of my hard drive is clean. Does this mean submitting the file has cleared it off my system and if not how do I delete the file and replace it????

Symantec will not give me online support as they say my software is out of date (I only installed it 18 months ago) and the knowledge base is no help.

Any help anyone can offer is appreciated.

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Woman magazine. ex-JW story.

by Geordie in

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woman magazine in the uk are running a story in the march 18 issue titled, "i had to chose between my husband and my religion.

" its in the shops now.. its the story of jo and paul kevin.

jo left the jw's after paul did a s**t load of research.

moneypenny

Thanks for that, I'll be at the newsagents tomorrow.

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The Ark a question can anybody help????

by moneypenny in

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while listening to a radio programme this morning i heard an anglican clergyman, whilst relating the account of noah and the flood, say that a hole had been made in the side of the ark and this related to jesus having a wound inflicted in his side too, therefore jesus is the spiritual equivalent of the ark in noahs day.. now i prefer that version rather than the jw line that the organisation is the spiritual ark.

i have read the account in genesis both in the living bible and the king james and cannot find any mention of the ark ever having a hole inflicted in its side.. .

i wasn't paying much attention to the radio it was just going on in the backround but this got my attention because i was brought up a methodist and i seem to recall something about this in my dim and distant past.

moneypenny

Dakota Red

Yes I wondered if he meant the door but I'm sure he said hole, thats what drew my attention.

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The Ark a question can anybody help????

by moneypenny in

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while listening to a radio programme this morning i heard an anglican clergyman, whilst relating the account of noah and the flood, say that a hole had been made in the side of the ark and this related to jesus having a wound inflicted in his side too, therefore jesus is the spiritual equivalent of the ark in noahs day.. now i prefer that version rather than the jw line that the organisation is the spiritual ark.

i have read the account in genesis both in the living bible and the king james and cannot find any mention of the ark ever having a hole inflicted in its side.. .

i wasn't paying much attention to the radio it was just going on in the backround but this got my attention because i was brought up a methodist and i seem to recall something about this in my dim and distant past.

moneypenny

While listening to a radio programme this morning I heard an Anglican clergyman, whilst relating the account of Noah and the flood, say that a hole had been made in the side of the Ark and this related to Jesus having a wound inflicted in his side too, therefore Jesus is the spiritual equivalent of the Ark in Noahs day.

Now I prefer that version rather than the JW line that the organisation is the spiritual Ark. I have read the account in Genesis both in the Living Bible and the King James and cannot find any mention of the Ark ever having a hole inflicted in its side.

I wasn't paying much attention to the radio it was just going on in the backround but this got my attention because I was brought up a Methodist and I seem to recall something about this in my dim and distant past. Is my memory playing tricks, can somebody help me with this??????

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Part 5: The Beginning of the End

by Amazing in

part 5: the beginning of the end .

note: from this point forward begins not only my final journey out of the jws, but even more bizarre and twisted turns in the road.

i hope you all find this interesting, because to me it only gets more intriguing and weird for the 3 12 years following january 1992... moment of decision: i can point back to the mountain top visit with god, or maybe today i might call it a visit with my higher power, whomever she/he/it might be.

moneypenny

Thanks Amazing, every night after the 6.oopm news [UK time}I look forward to logging on to see if the next instalment has been posted. I'll miss this story when it's up to date.

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making apostate predictions .

by refiners fire in

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late in 1993 i made a prediction to an innactive, but still believing, jw.. the prediction was that the understanding of the "generation" would be changed before the end of 1994 and that it would become a figurative generation.. as it turned out, i was wrong, they changed it in november 1995.. but the witness still rang me up and asked how i could possibly know that 2 years before the org did.

the guys a rotten apostate now.. hehehe.. anyway, last night i did it again to another innactive believer, i predicted that the blood stance will be abandoned, and that child molestation is going to hit the headlines.

the second ones pretty straight forward, a nice little teaser for him to gain confidence in my "prophetic" ability.

moneypenny

Well here goes.....I predict the WBTS will distance themselves from the blood issue in stages, by making more blood fractions a matter of conscience therefore putting less peoples life in danger, but I agree with a previous post that it could be many years before they abandon it for good. That way there will be fewer members left who have lost loved ones to bring law suits against the organisation.

I am not defending the organisation on this issue but I cannot begin to imagine the hurt these people would feel if it was suddenly abandoned now, especially if children are involved who had little choice in the matter.

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Part 1: Breaking Ground with Crisis of Conscience

by Amazing in

part 1: breaking ground with crisis of conscience .

while attending the district convention at the cow palace in san francisco, the jw man who had brought me into the religion, told me that ray franz had resigned from the governing body, and several were disfellowshipped from bethel in a major cleaning out of apostates.

i was shocked, and asked why ray franz would resign.

moneypenny

Great post, read every word, can't wait for part two!!!!!!!!

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Who Have They Sold Redundant KH's Too?

by Celtic in

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the witnesses have obviously sold off lots of stock and fixtures over the years, as they replaced older, redundant technologies with new, including within this, buildings, kingdom halls and such like.. 'bernard' brought up the reminder in a reply post below, quoting his old kingdom hall as being sold to the mormon's.

frankly, this raised my eyebrows.. what else have they sold that we know of to people on the 'outside' that they would normally disagree with?

and how have these fresh funds been used, to what ends, if any specifically?.

moneypenny

I know one that was sold to Bible student Group

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Tell Old School Friends That You've Left?

by Englishman in

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some of the uk national newspapers have been referring to the web-site at http://friendsreunited.co.uk/, where thousands and thousands of brits have been getting back in touch with old school friends.. just out of curiosity i decided to take a peek.

well, i was stunned.

many long-forgotten class-mates had my mind leaping back to the early 60s, particularly when they mentioned the weird nicknames that we had given to our teachers.. the french master, froggy fleuriot, mousy mclaughlan with his rats teeth, bummer burrell well, i will leave that one to your imagination.

moneypenny

Yes Englishman

Friendsreunited is a great favourite with my family too.

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Reprints of Pastor Russell Quotes

by moneypenny in

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i have just been reading some previous threads about russells quotes.. it is possible to get hold of reprints of all six of russells studies in the scriptures.

1. the divine plan of the ages.

2. the time is at hand.

moneypenny

I have just been reading some previous threads about Russells Quotes.

It is possible to get hold of reprints of all six of Russells Studies In The Scriptures.

1. The Divine Plan of The Ages
2. The Time is at Hand
3. Thy Kingdon Come
4. The Battle of Armageddon
5. The Atonement Between God And Man
6. The New Creation

I believe they are quite easy to get hold of in America most of the Bible Student groups still use them. The latest set I have was brought over from the U.S. by an American friend of a friend. The Address on the front cover is 'Bible students Congregation of New Brunswick. PO Box 144. Edison, N.J.08818-0144, U.S.A.'

I also have a Pastors Russells Sermons and a copy of Tabernacle Shadows Of The Better Sacrifices, a handy little book.

The JWs I have had contact with see these as apostate material and will have nothing to do with them. They have distanced themselves from most of Russells teachings especially cronology and pyramid passages and who is covered by the ransom sacrifice. On the other hand Bible Students belief in Russell verges on idolatory!