The credit card machines were set up on tables throuoghout the DC. I sat there picturing myself overturning them. I wonder if they're going to be at the assembly halls also.
discreetslave
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Confusing messages at DC
by Kensho inokay i know everyone has probably already attended the dc and have posted their experiences here, but i just went to fri. and sat.
session (with a drama although timely for families i thought would never end) and a couple of bizarre things stood out.. very poor attempt at explaining the overlapping gen. new light.
during the brother's talk he said" there are two phases to the overlapping generations".
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Confusing messages at DC
by Kensho inokay i know everyone has probably already attended the dc and have posted their experiences here, but i just went to fri. and sat.
session (with a drama although timely for families i thought would never end) and a couple of bizarre things stood out.. very poor attempt at explaining the overlapping gen. new light.
during the brother's talk he said" there are two phases to the overlapping generations".
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Blasphemous pictures
by darth frosty inyou see what the title says so dont get offended i find these amusing.. .
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EXCLUSIVE NEW LIGHT! How to calculate the length of the overlapping generations - SCRIPTURALLY!
by agonus inok, so the one scripture that supports the "overlapping generations" doctrine is the one about joseph having brothers, right?.
well, then, logically, if that scripture buttresses the glorious new light - and we know how long that "generation" was - we should be able to calculate the date for armageddon, no?.
allowing for a maximum period starting with the year of the birth of the eldest brother (reuben if i'm not mistaken), and ending with the year of the death of the youngest (benjamin, correct?
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discreetslave
Here's the youtube vid of Kissing Hanks Ass
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"THEY" are here right now. I don't want them to come around again, ever!!
by trailerfitter inokay ,, this is a question and a confession.
we have had an issue come to a head in this household of mine.
after getting to the bottom of my parners intentions i have given her an ultimatum knowing all too well she will choose the jws over myself and family.
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discreetslave
You have to keep cool. You start with the ultimatums, you persecute her,you decide to break up, could all backfire on you. You can come off as paranoid, or they can twist it to make it seem you never loved her and you're using the religion as a cop out. The tougher you are the more you will drive her to them.Read up on mind control and how to counter it. Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan and Freeminds.org has a short ebook using the principles from this book ton help people with Watchtower. Please play it cool. Persecution makes them stronger.
I'll send you a PM
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Literacy and eternal salvation
by dgp inchristianity began (or so goes the claim) as a group of mostly illiterate and poor fishermen.
most people were illiterate at the time.
so, the god of that religion, then, did not require that you be literate in order to be saved.
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discreetslave
Well said Won'tLeave
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another sad blood story
by Found Sheep inso i had a patient this week that needed blood.
as i always do i give the signs of a rejection and pros and cons... she said of course i'll have one since i need it... i just don't understand people that don't!!!
and they would rather die.
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I hang my head in shame over defending this issue in the past and training my child to refuse blood if the time came. I thought I was a part of something noble and true. I could have been that mom. I risked death over the blood issue with both births of my children. To think it would have been for nothing. I share in your outrage those bastards. I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason they're making all these fraction allowances is due to the GB dealing with these issues. They are to chicken sh** to face their own mortality.
To WBT$ & it's defenders. How do you sleep at night with all this blood on your hands?
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discreetslave
I'm out my husband is still in and taking the kids to the hall. He says he is determined to keep our family together. He really loves me yet I am preparing for the worse case scenario.
In May we went on vacation with a family who's 8 year old son was baptized. Before the trip her grandparents kept saying how excited they were she was going to be meeting him. They kept bringing up he was recently baptized and that he has aux. pioneered 2 times already. While on vacation I watched this kid, he had no spark an 8 year old zombie. I was already doubting the religion & questioning this opened my eyes further. Seeing him scared me. I didnt want her to be like him yet that's what I had been grooming her for. At 6 she could write & type up her own talks, became an unbaptized publisher. She asked me if there was something wrong with her because she wasn't baptized or ready for baptism after our vacation and I told her no. I told her it's something very serious and no one is to push her into it if she's not ready at any age. Well I exited a month later.
I no longer push her to prepare for the meetings so now she spends a small fraction of the time she use to studying JW literature. I'm reading "Teach Your Child How to Think" and I 'm encouraging her to question everything. I've already told her what it would mean for our relationship if she got baptized. So I told her I will respect whatever decision she makes as long as she has thought about it carefully and has thoroughly researched everything she is expected to believe. I told her & my husband before she considers baptism i should be able to explain why I left. The fact that I now tell her she can dream about being whatever she wants and can be whatever she wants is huge. Whenever she spoke about being things she wanted to do or be I was guilty of shooting it down telling her that's for the new system. Those days are gone and I can already see the superstar mentality she had coming back. I hate that I was killing that in her. I'm glad I woke up soon enough to counter the negative JW crap she's was being submitted to. She thinks it's awesome Mommy is looking to start a career and going back to school.
My son is 2 so he has not experienced the indoctrination his sister has. Even when I was true blue one of his first sentences was "I do not like the kingdom hall." Now when he's getting ready for the meetings he runs to me giggling and whispers it in my ears. I tell him he has to go & to respect his dad but we'll play when he gets home.
Mine is not an easy fight but I am hopeful.
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Im disfellowshipped
by newcomer1982 inthink it was announced yesterday that im disfellowshipped.
will these feelings of guilt and panic ever go away?
my head is so messed up.
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discreetslave
I'm sorry for your pain but this is a good thing. The JW religion is a fraud and the love there is conditional. You can now find people who will love you unconditionally. The old is cleared away to make room for better things. You no longer just have to exist you can live.
I hope your parents will wake up. It's so sad to see families broken but they are choosing to deaden their natural affection for you and it will be their loss.
I've sent you a PM
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How are things going since my exit?
by discreetslave intoday i got accepted to a christian university and we had an earthquake!!!
the college is located here in va and is the largest christian university in the us.
my husband is worried about the money but the fact that it's liberty u upsets him more.. otherwise things are good between us things are tense on meeting days.
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Our trip was postponed. Friday night we almost had a huge argument but it turned around and he just let me talk and he didn't shut me down like he has when I get into my reasons for leaving or about my views of Christianity.
It was awesome. He interjected here and there with typical JW responses but he was not as defensive as he had gotten before. I may be putting cracks in his foundation. This is huge. I thought I missed the boat with him. I've been regrtetting not being more articulate and giving more details as to my exit in my DA letter. I wrote it so hastily and I'll never know if I could have reached someone but the person I care most about reaching is him. I never thought he would have let me say all I did.
The next morning when his alarm went off at 7:30. I layed there praying he wouldn't go out in service and that the kids wouldn't get up either. We both went back to sleep and didn't wake up until the my 2yo woke us up at 9:55. It was an awesome morning which turned into a great day. He went to the meeting on Sunday but I honestly think if the power was still out at the KH he wouldn't have gone to another one (I live within 20 min of 22 english cong.'s and a french group we use to attend there is no excuse to miss a meeting here).
We're supposed to visit my family this coming weekend which means a 4th week no service unless he gets out during the week(he broke his record at 2 weeks). I'm still dreading the upcoming WT's on apostates then the one on loyalty in dealing with df'd ones.
He's planning on visiting our old cong the day of the apostate article. I don't know how many in that cong. know I left. I emailed one couple from there and I don't know who've they've shared it with. Part of me wants to go with him and tell the first person who approaches me beware I'm a mentally diseased apostate according to the WT. Since that wouldn't go over to good I'll refrain. Especially since it seems I may be able to wake him up after all. I'll keep you posted.
