The new publishers record cards still has it I asked about it .When they said yes I told them they had to change mine to anointed.
discreetslave
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Is this Watchtower comment about the Slave a lie?
by jwfacts inin the question from readers, watchtower 2011 8/15 p. 22 it made the following comment:.
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.".
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Partaker Number To Be Eliminated?
by LostGeneration inthe recent wt that has been discussed quite a bit here offers up this quote:.
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.
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discreetslave
How can they still say that people are holding on to false religious beliefs. They beat the heavenly hope out of you right from the get go.
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Partaker Number To Be Eliminated?
by LostGeneration inthe recent wt that has been discussed quite a bit here offers up this quote:.
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.
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discreetslave
When that article came out it helped me speed up my exit. I smelled a rat and I thought for sure they're getting ready to stop publishing the number of partakers or are trying to minimize the importance by saying most are insane anyway so it doesn't matter. When I spoke to others about it all of them had no clue how high the # of partakers was. They had stopped paying attn. So if that's any indication of most JW's it will be easy to drop it. They'll say something like there are too many mentally unstable & closet apostates to make this number worthwhile, Jehovah knows those that belong to him & that's all that matters or some other such nonsense.
There was a brother who gave a talk right before I left that made me wonder if he's mentally out. He said the scripture at Rev 7:9 says a great crowd which no man was able to number so why are elders more focused on the head count than actually taking care of the sheep. They could use that reasoning as new light to stop publishing all figures. -
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How Have you Counted your time for Pioneering?
by jehu or jehonadab injust woundering how have you counted your time in field service especially if you were pioneering?.
would like to see if any of you were on the same page as i was.
with so much to do, like reading all the watchtower and awake each month and the bible reading each week.
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discreetslave
I was told I was too technical in the way I counted my time. I remember it would often happen that I had less time than my partner for the day. I came off the pioneer list when I got pregnant, my husband insisted I become more more concerened with the pregnancy than my time. I never got back on the list because I found it too hard to balance everything. If I counted the way the other pioneers did I may have had an easier time.
I haven't been as active here is Teary always like this?
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The Impact of Leaving
by leavingwt ini would like to share the information below with newer members and lurkers.
we're not insensitive to what you're now going through.
many of us have been in your position.
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discreetslave
Thanks Donny for this topic. It's important for those thinking of leaving or who have left and have not yet realized why they feel like they do to know they are not alone. My husband is a born in and he doesn't get it. He doesn't understand that the religion is either at root or a big part of the psychological problems people have to deal with.
I went through all those stages rather quickly and it was quite a roller coaster except for the reinvolvement. Even when I felt my worst after leaving it was better than being a JW. For years I couldn't figure out why I was constantly depressed and felt empty. I felt so guilty all the time, I was supposed to be happy for being in the truth and yet I was never complete. When I realized the religion was a lie my life and my feelings about it made sense. No one could pay me enough to ever go back, living a life that is unfulfilled and where you are denied being your authentic self is not worth it.
I still deal with guilt in regards to pushing my kid into being a publisher and helping others to become JW's. My anger towards the leadership stems from their arrogance and their manipulation of sincere people like my husband and friends. Everyday I wonder if my husband will ever wake up and that adds a moment of sadness. The pain of that lessens with each day but it's something that I'll have to live with. It's countered by the joy I have in knowing that my leaving has given my children a way out and hope for a much more fulfilled life than their parents have. -
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Heavenly Gates Closed in 1935 Re-opened in 2007
by Alfred insince 1935, the watchtower had been categorically teaching (for over 6 decades) that the heavenly calling of the 144,000 anointed christians had ceased in 1935. this teaching was especially significant to older jws (especially those who spent much of their lives serving the watchtower as pioneers, elders, missionaries, bethelites, etc.
) because many of these would eventually turn their attention to the aging governing body members and feel a sense of relief knowing that the end was drawing ever so near.
in other words, as more governing body members (who were born before 1935) passed away, the closer they would get to their long-awaited reward of surviving armageddon and living on paradise earth where they would finally hug grass-eating lions near a waterfall while marveling at snow-peaked mountains in the distance.
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Heavenly Gates Closed in 1935 Re-opened in 2007
by Alfred insince 1935, the watchtower had been categorically teaching (for over 6 decades) that the heavenly calling of the 144,000 anointed christians had ceased in 1935. this teaching was especially significant to older jws (especially those who spent much of their lives serving the watchtower as pioneers, elders, missionaries, bethelites, etc.
) because many of these would eventually turn their attention to the aging governing body members and feel a sense of relief knowing that the end was drawing ever so near.
in other words, as more governing body members (who were born before 1935) passed away, the closer they would get to their long-awaited reward of surviving armageddon and living on paradise earth where they would finally hug grass-eating lions near a waterfall while marveling at snow-peaked mountains in the distance.
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discreetslave
When they changed the 1935 understanding I thought they realized that if the number is literal many who partook in the early days partook because they came out of false religion with the heavenly hope set in mind and never realizing they were mistaken since the earthly hope was only understood later.
The heavenly hope is what the New Testament is about. I know JW's like myself who always felt they were going to heaven simply because of understanding the Christian scriptures but did not partake because they were too scared to be criticized. I had no desire to rule over anyone or sought out special treatment, I felt I was going to heaven at the time because of the closeness I felt to Jehovah & Christ as a Christian.
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New Ex-JW Documentary To Be Released
by discreetslave inabout filmtruth be told is a feature length documentary that explores the lives of several individuals raised in the jehovahs witnesses religion.
the title of the film refers to the tendency by jehovahs witnesses to regard their beliefs exclusively as the truth.. the documentary is not an indictment of religion but rather a retrospective.
in a series of informal interviews, former jehovahs witnesses discuss life experiences within the organization including the impact the religion had on their childhood and family, schooling, adolescence, and approaches to dating and marriage.
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discreetslave
Here's some info on the director and an update on production of the movie
I was born in 1974 in Brooklyn, NY to an American father and a Panamanian mother who became a JW months before I was born. My mother was tyrannically devout and all too readily subordinated her judgment, common-sense, and basic maternal instincts to the administrations of the WTBTS.
The elders in our congregation wielded a particularly powerful influence. From the spiritual to the secular everything was subjected to their intrusive judgment (including our haircuts!). My siblings and I were force-fed JW dogma ad nauseam and we were beaten severely whenever we behaved in a 'worldly' (normal) manner.
No childhood. Few precious memories. Years of wasted potential. A dysfunctional family. A father driven to an early grave. And an irretrievably brainwashed mother that hasn’t been a 'mom' in decades.
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Per the official synopsis, TRUTH BE TOLD is not an indictment of religion but rather a retrospective. The purpose of the movie is to provide a comprehensive forum for anyone that has story to share - to start a new conversation intended to heal, not hurt. And while the ultimate product may not be even-handed, it will be honest.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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discreetslave
If one doesn't learn to see the organization for what it really is then they can return. Years of mind control doesn't disappear overnight. One has to deprogram from the group think & fear. They also have to realize the bad in the world is NOT proof that the WBT$ is right it's just life.
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Well, it's official, I am a rabid, mentally diseased Apostate!
by serenitynow! inso an apostabuddy wanted to stage a silent protest at the assembly hall where she was baptized.
we went today.
the plan was to wear these apostate t-shirts that had stuff printed on them about thinking for yourself, and a bunch of websites.
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discreetslave
I was thinking of you guys all week wishing I could be with you or wanting to show up at Bethel while in NY.
Being an activist & trying to save your marriage doesn't blend.