Cedars PM me I put the word out on Facebook groups asking if any are willing to share their stories.
discreetslave
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Husband beats wife, husband studies with JWs, husband stops beating wife, all live happily ever after... help needed!
by cedars inwithout going into details, i'm doing some work on the recent feb 15th watchtower article, namely the experience that appears to excuse a husband beating his wife who is not sufficiently showing christian qualities, etc.. i am putting together a statement on the subject, and it occurred to me that the scenario of a violent husband beating his wife, then studying and becoming a witness is not entirely new in itself to the publications.
this alone is troubling, because there is repeated suggestion that staying with a violent husband is necessary in order to "win him over".
(1 peter 3:1).
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Husband beats wife, husband studies with JWs, husband stops beating wife, all live happily ever after... help needed!
by cedars inwithout going into details, i'm doing some work on the recent feb 15th watchtower article, namely the experience that appears to excuse a husband beating his wife who is not sufficiently showing christian qualities, etc.. i am putting together a statement on the subject, and it occurred to me that the scenario of a violent husband beating his wife, then studying and becoming a witness is not entirely new in itself to the publications.
this alone is troubling, because there is repeated suggestion that staying with a violent husband is necessary in order to "win him over".
(1 peter 3:1).
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discreetslave
I can ask some of my facebook friends who endured abusive relationships if they want to contact you with their stories.
I chat with Danmera a lot if you'd like to contact her as well
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Husband beats wife, husband studies with JWs, husband stops beating wife, all live happily ever after... help needed!
by cedars inwithout going into details, i'm doing some work on the recent feb 15th watchtower article, namely the experience that appears to excuse a husband beating his wife who is not sufficiently showing christian qualities, etc.. i am putting together a statement on the subject, and it occurred to me that the scenario of a violent husband beating his wife, then studying and becoming a witness is not entirely new in itself to the publications.
this alone is troubling, because there is repeated suggestion that staying with a violent husband is necessary in order to "win him over".
(1 peter 3:1).
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discreetslave
*** w94 4/15 pp. 27-29 Determined to Serve Jehovah! ***
Likewise today an opposed husband may demand that his wife stop attending congregation meetings. How should she react? Jane found herself in this situation. She explains: “I would never back off under pressure. I knew there could be no compromise. I had to demonstrate how much the meetings meant to me.” Jehovah blessed her resolve as she kept attending.
“My husband tried to keep me from going to the meetings, but that didn’t last too long,” relates Glenys. “I still went. When I returned home, he sometimes beat me, and at other times I was greeted by silence.” Yet, she coped, praying repeatedly. Also, two of the congregation elders regularly prayed with her, which greatly encouraged her to keep attending.—James 5:13-15; 1 Peter 2:23.
At times a husband’s superiors may pressure him to discourage his wife from preaching the good news. Diane found that she had to make it clear to her husband what her priorities were. “I was prepared,” she said, “to take the consequences of my continued preaching.” How like the apostles’ stand this is! (Acts 4:29, 31) Nevertheless, she was circumspect in her preaching. She relates: “I used to have gatherings for coffee and offer everybody present a Truth book.”—Matthew 10:16; 24:14
Another child
*** w99 2/1 p. 12 The Great Potter and His Work ***
Molding Our Young Ones
13 Parents can share in the molding of their young ones, right from the children’s infancy, and what splendid integrity-keepers our youths can turn out to be! (2 Timothy 3:14, 15) This has been true even when the tests were extreme. Some years ago, when persecution was at its height in an African land, a trustworthy family cared for the clandestine printing of The Watchtower in a backyard shed. One day soldiers were coming down the street, searching from house to house for young men to induct into the army. There was still time for the two young boys in this family to hide, but the resulting search by the soldiers would surely uncover the printing press. This could lead to torture or possibly the killing of the entire family. What could be done? The two boys spoke up, boldly citing John 15:13: “No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his soul in behalf of his friends.” They insisted on staying in the living room. The soldiers would find them and no doubt subject them to cruel torture or even kill them when they refused to be inducted. But then they would search no further. The printing press and the other family members would be spared. There was, however, a remarkable outcome. The soldiers actually skipped this one house, going on to the others! Those human vessels molded for an honorable use survived, along with the printing press, to continue publishing timely spiritual food. One of the two boys and his sister are now serving at Bethel; he is still operating the old machine.
The husband doesn't become a witness in these
*** yb98 pp. 191-193 Martinique ***
A Night in the Mango Tree
The Kingdom message had reached Le Lamentin as early as 1955, but severe tests continued to face those there who sought to worship Jehovah God. This was not always because of the clergy. Martinican men are generally proud of their masculinity, and many of them are quite domineering toward their wives. When a woman wanted to worship Jehovah, she often had to face up to violence from her husband.
One of our sisters in Le Lamentin relates: “In 1972 when the Kingdom message was brought to my home, it was the answer to all I had longed for. But my husband forbade me to study. Nevertheless, I continued studying secretly. When he found out, he burned my Bible and my study book and beat me. He decided that we would move, hoping that this would put an end to my interest in the Bible.
“When I started attending meetings, he used to lock me out. I often had to sleep under the veranda. Then he destroyed everything that could serve as shelter to me, even the henhouse. He beat me often, and many times I had to go without food. Once, he chased after me in the middle of the night with a cutlass! To get away from him, I had to run through the bushes and climb a mango tree as quickly as possible. I escaped, but only because his flashlight had stopped working. He looked for me for hours, passing close to where I was hiding, curled up in the tree, praying. I spent that entire night in the mango tree.” Nevertheless, in 1977 she got baptized. Later, her daughter too took her stand for Jehovah.
*** g92 9/22 pp. 20-21 My Burning Desire to Serve God ***
After I had been studying for two years, I was determined to go to the 1968 Memorial of Christ’s death. I prayed before telling my husband. I knew he would react violently, and he did. He screamed that he’d rather see me dead than for me to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. He grabbed a knife and held it to my throat. “Tell me you’re not going, and I won’t kill you!” I prayed silently to Jehovah: ‘Help me stay faithful even if I have to die.’ I was amazed to feel the inner calm that came over me and found myself thinking, ‘What good would life be anyway without serving Jehovah?’ It seemed forever, but he finally threw the knife on the floor. “I can’t kill you,” he wailed. “I want to, but I just can’t. I don’t know why.”
During the Memorial service, the feelings of peace and closeness to Jehovah again welled up within me. When I got home, I was locked out, and my things were on the doorstep. I spent the night with my parents. Thereafter the threats with a knife at my throat continued, and the beatings continued. I often found myself locked out of the house when I got home from meetings. My husband said: “If you’re going to serve Jehovah, let him take care of you.” He stopped paying the bills. We ran out of food, the gas and electricity were cut off, we lost the house. But Jehovah was always there for me and the children.
In July 1969 a big convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses was held in New York City. An hour before I was to get on the train to go, my husband cornered me, made his usual threats, and held the knife to my throat again. But I was used to that by now and never wavered. At that convention, on July 11, 1969, I symbolized my dedication to Jehovah. Along with 3,000 other conventioners, I was baptized in the ocean.
At least twice a year, I put in 75 hours a month, even though my husband forbade me to go out in the service. I knew it was the command of Christ Jesus to preach, and I had to obey him. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20) I always worked hard at home, however. I kept the house clean. I had his meals ready on time. On meeting nights, I made his favorite meals. When I got home, I prepared special desserts for him. Even so, he was pretty grouchy. But it’s hard for someone to keep yelling at you if you’re feeding him his favorite dessert!
In 1975 my husband moved the family to California. In November 1976 our marriage ended, after 17 years. It was never my desire to be divorced. I never believed in divorce. At Malachi 2:16, Jehovah said that ‘he hated a divorcing.’ It was a devastating experience to go through. To add to my grief, my children stayed with their father in California. I returned back East to where I had lived before. -
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Husband beats wife, husband studies with JWs, husband stops beating wife, all live happily ever after... help needed!
by cedars inwithout going into details, i'm doing some work on the recent feb 15th watchtower article, namely the experience that appears to excuse a husband beating his wife who is not sufficiently showing christian qualities, etc.. i am putting together a statement on the subject, and it occurred to me that the scenario of a violent husband beating his wife, then studying and becoming a witness is not entirely new in itself to the publications.
this alone is troubling, because there is repeated suggestion that staying with a violent husband is necessary in order to "win him over".
(1 peter 3:1).
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discreetslave
*** yb93 pp. 179-180 Honduras ***
Overcoming Obstacles
Of course, few manage to serve Jehovah without facing serious obstacles and problems. When Emilia first heard the Kingdom message in 1967, she was already married, though not happily. At first she did not take the truth seriously. But when she began to do something about it, her husband threatened to throw the sister who studied with her out of the house. Emilia said firmly: “If you throw her out, we will study in the street.” One day Emilia stopped at the bar where her husband was drinking to let him know that she was going to the meeting. He was waiting on the corner when she returned and began to shout at her, publicly calling her a prostitute.
Despite such indignities and even beatings, Emilia decided to get baptized. And in spite of 20 more years of constant opposition, she trained the children. From when they were very small, she taught each one a Bible presentation to practice among the shrubs and flowers in the garden. Was it worth all the work? Of her eight sons, two are now ministerial servants and two are regular pioneers. What of Emilia’s husband? He finally accepted a Bible study—with one of his own daughters, a regular pioneer!
*** yb90 p. 64 1990 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses ***
In this country a Bible study was started with the wife of a military officer. She and her five children soon started attending meetings. Strong opposition from her husband began; he even beat her with his army belt. As the harsh opposition continued, the woman endeavored to practice the Christian principles she had learned. Eventually, the consistency of her good Christian conduct made a deep impression on her husband. He has since retired and is now studying the Bible with one of our brothers.*** w95 1/1 pp. 7-8 Triumphing Over Satan and His Works ***
Youthful Integrity Keepers
12 Jesus indicated that those who are cut off by family members for the sake of the truth will be rewarded “a hundredfold.” (Mark 10:29, 30) This was true of Entellia, a ten-year-old girl in northern Africa, who loved God’s name—Jehovah—as soon as she heard it. She studied with Jehovah’s Witnesses and walked 90 minutes each way to meetings, even though her opposed family often shut her out of the home on her return. At 13 years of age, she started to preach from house to house, and the family’s opposition intensified. One day relatives bound her hands and feet and had her lie in the broiling sun for seven hours, occasionally throwing dirty water over her. They beat her viciously, destroying one of her eyes, and finally drove her from her home. However, she found work in a hospital and eventually qualified as a nurse. At age 20 she was baptized and enrolled immediately as an auxiliary pioneer. Impressed by her integrity, her family has welcomed her back into their home, and nine of them have accepted home Bible studies.
13 Entellia gained much encouragement from Psalm 116, especially verses 1-4, which she has read over and over again: “I do love, because Jehovah hears my voice, my entreaties. For he has inclined his ear to me, and throughout my days I shall call. The ropes of death encircled me and the distressing circumstances of Sheol themselves found me. Distress and grief I kept finding. But upon the name of Jehovah I proceeded to call: ‘Ah, Jehovah, do provide my soul with escape!’” Jehovah answers such prayers! -
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Husband beats wife, husband studies with JWs, husband stops beating wife, all live happily ever after... help needed!
by cedars inwithout going into details, i'm doing some work on the recent feb 15th watchtower article, namely the experience that appears to excuse a husband beating his wife who is not sufficiently showing christian qualities, etc.. i am putting together a statement on the subject, and it occurred to me that the scenario of a violent husband beating his wife, then studying and becoming a witness is not entirely new in itself to the publications.
this alone is troubling, because there is repeated suggestion that staying with a violent husband is necessary in order to "win him over".
(1 peter 3:1).
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discreetslave
JW's may point to the Nov 8, 2001 Awake to say they don't condone domestic violence
Contrast that with experiences like this
*** w82 7/15 p. 7 How Marriage Survives the Assault ***
What, though, if only one of the marriage mates tries to apply these principles? Well, the problem becomes harder, but not hopeless. It is better that 50 percent of a partnership does things right than that both do things wrong. And, with endurance, good results are still possible.
A husband in Korea used to beat his wife when he was under the influence of alcohol. His wife did not seek to end the relationship, even though life was difficult. To her, the goal of a happy marriage was worth aiming for. Hence, unilaterally, she followed the Bible’s counsel, particularly its advice to wives that they cultivate “the quiet and mild spirit, which is of great value in the eyes of God.”—1 Peter 3:4.
For eleven years she endured. Was it worth it? Yes, because eventually her husband was moved to look into the guidebook for himself. Why? If you asked him, he would answer that his wife’s “quiet and mild spirit” moved him to find out the secret of her fine conduct. He saw the wisdom of the Bible’s advice and changed his ways. -
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Are the GB/their suck-ups doing it on purpose as some have intimated?
by punkofnice inwe've all see the disgusting statements the gb are unleashing on the jdubs by way of their rags.
usually the 'in house' watchtower where we've seen 'mentally diseased apostates' and 'jehu' slaughtering 'apostates'.. .
then we see a battered wife staying with her husband (if the story can be believed), for 17 years before 'steve' gets assimilated into the borg.. .
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discreetslave
A fader's mother in law attended the Oct special meetings and her mother in law told her something to the effect that they should prepare for some backlash since there will be issues some may find controversial since they will not water down the message. I didn't see that mentioned in the notes that were posted about it can someone confirm if this is true?
If it is true then to me that looks like they are baiting issues to cry persecution. They know "apostates" look thru the magazines online before most JW's do. it's an election year here in the states and with all the movements around the world and the economic situation they may be taking advantage of it to stir up some persecution to keep the rank & file busy & clinging to the org over the next year while they come up with the next idea. -
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Thankful for finding this site & all of you!!!
by discreetslave inat this time last year i was in another deep depression feeling alone & hopeless despite being surrounded by people who said they cared and belonging to a religion that said it could offer mankind the only real hope in life.
it's ironic that i now have more online friends than physical friendships, am no longer a part of that religion & i feel happier than i have in many years.
i'm thankful to have found this website & feeling validated.
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discreetslave
At this time last year I was in another deep depression feeling alone & hopeless despite being surrounded by people who said they cared and belonging to a religion that said it could offer mankind the only real hope in life. It's ironic that I now have more online friends than physical friendships, am no longer a part of that religion & I feel happier than I have in many years. I'm thankful to have found this website & feeling validated. I wasn't a wicked person for doubting the faithful & discreet slave, I wasn't crazy for thinking there is something wrong with my religion. I'm so thankful for all of you sharing your stories and helping me and others like me find freedom.
Happy Thanksgiving !!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K29yL-2Iuf4
Living life is fun and we've just begun
To get our share of the world's delights
(HIGH!) high hopes we have for the future
And our goal's in sight
(WE!) no we don't get depressed
Here's what we call our golden rule
Have faith in you and the things you do
You won't go wrong
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Responses to the Feb 15 2012 Wife Beater Article
by discreetslave inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hntezntyv60.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlnttwkadag&feature.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2db9jmvzri.
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discreetslave
What if they retract the English article?
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Responses to the Feb 15 2012 Wife Beater Article
by discreetslave inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hntezntyv60.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlnttwkadag&feature.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2db9jmvzri.
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by yourmomma inhave anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
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discreetslave
The sad fact is this thinking is tolerated and many JW's will point to the grounds for separation rule to say that the WT is not condoning domestic violence. They let this stuff just roll off their backs the org can do no wrong. We will be pointed to as the ones taking this out of context and exaggerating because we are tools of Satan.