Posts by discreetslave

they demonstrate that no matter how ridiculous your message and how much the facts don't support your position you can still accomplish a lot if you are organized.

discreetslave

MAXIMUM HELP IS KEY & SHOULD BE OUR PRIMARY MOTIVE

First & foremost we must speak JW when “overturning strongly entrenched things” for example I speak the following words to you my fellow freedom fighters:

I commend all you dear brothers & sisters for your work in connection to “the fine fight of the faith”(1 Tim 6:12). How can we in the “fine fight” become better “ workman with nothing to be ashamed of, handling the word of the truth aright”? (2 Tim 2:15)

We must remember the words found at 2 Cor 10:3-6 which says “3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to [what we are in the] flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things. 5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God; and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ” Notice Paul says “the weapons of our warfare are…powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things”. What can we say are our weapons lovingly provided by Jehovah thru his organization?

First,we have been blessed with an excellent translation of God’s word. Would you not agree that the New World Translation helps us in the application of Hebrews 4:12 ? (READ) This gift of God thru his spirit-directed organization has helped many to see the falsehoods in those who claim to be agents of God.

Second, Jehovah has blessed the Faithful and Discreet Slave with its Governing Body to furnish us with an abundance of Bible-based publications. Do we not appreciate Jehovah’s blessing upon his organization. By means of these Bible-based publications we are able to bring refreshment to those who are “toiling and loaded down” by this system of things (of course this means WBTS system of things) (Matt. 10:28).

Let us do our utmost to have a share in the fulfillment of Jesus words at Matthew 24:14 “ And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”

For us apostates Matthew 24:14 is our commission in this way: we are to make known to JW’s the good news of freedom from the kingdom of the WBTS and then its end will come.

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If the Watchtower stopped their cultic ways...

by Mickey mouse in

jw
friends

...places like this would be far quieter.

why can't they see that they are raking hot coals into their bosom by trying to keep people prisoner?

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discreetslave

OMG!!!! From the moment I started using the scriptures against rebellious in connection to WT it was clear that they are part of Babylon the Great. The WBTS publications is the biggest asset in helping others to see "THE TRUTH" I keep telling myself to read ALL the info against them before I judge but the bible and many WT teachings themselves are proving to me that Pauls words in Acts 20:28-30 are true in regards to WBTS

Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed YOU overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son]. 29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among YOU yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.

We need to get hardcore JW's like myself to see this. They are trained to use the WBTS pub. to defend their beliefs. If they would take the time and just turn the tables the truth can not be denied by those who appreciate it. My love for Jehovah & his Son is what moved me to consider the possibility that the WBTS were acting in imitation of Satan as "angels of light" Every reform movement in the history of Christianity stemmed from the veil being lifted. I read the words of 1 Cor 3:12-18 and I can see the reformists being pushed into the "fine fight of the faith" it says

12 Therefore, as we have such a hope, we are using great freeness of speech, 13 and not doing as when Moses would put a veil upon his face, that the sons of Israel might not gaze intently at the end of that which was to be done away with. 14 But their mental powers were dulled. For to this present day the same veil remains unlifted at the reading of the old covenant, because it is done away with by means of Christ. 15 In fact, down till today whenever Moses is read, a veil lies upon their hearts. 16 But when there is a turning to Jehovah, the veil is taken away. 17 Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom. 18 And all of us, while we with unveiled faces reflect like mirrors the glory of Jehovah, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, exactly as done by Jehovah [the] Spirit.

Until then those of us wanting to help JW's out of WBTS need to be adept at using the pub. in the same spirit of Br. Ray Franz, Br. Don Cameron, Br. WTComments etc...

Todays text my brother & sisters is an excellent example of how Jehovah cares for lovers of truth regardless of their beliefs in regards to the universe.

Tuesday, July 5
A man’s enemies will be persons of his own household.—Matt. 10:36.
Frontal assaults against God’s people in general are one thing. When opposition comes upon individual Christians from family members, it is quite different. Did not Jesus foretell that this would take place? Yes, and many have experienced the truthfulness of his words. (Matt. 10:35) Teenagers have endured opposition from unbelieving parents. Some have even been ordered out of the home, but they were taken in by kindly Witnesses. Others have been disowned. What enabled such ones to endure mistreatment? Not just their love for the brotherhood but, above all, their genuine love for Jehovah and his Son. (1 Pet. 1:22; 1 John 4:21) There are many other situations in life that call for the love that endures all things. Within the marriage union, a husband and wife clothed with this quality are fortified to stick to each other and keep their marriage intact.—Col. 3:14. w09 12/15 4:17, 18

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Do you think he's counting time?

by J. Hofer in

http://www.youtube.com/user/04n29.

just saw this youtube profile when watching an "apostate" video.. 4 minutes by 558 views is almost auxiliary pioneer, isn't it?.

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discreetslave

Actually its 37.2 hours. You need 750 views to make your time as an auxiliary pionerr

1050 views to make regular pioneer time 1850 views to make Special Pioneer Time

The math is # of views x 4 divided by 60

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If the Watchtower stopped their cultic ways...

by Mickey mouse in

jw
friends

...places like this would be far quieter.

why can't they see that they are raking hot coals into their bosom by trying to keep people prisoner?

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discreetslave

Remember the words in Galatians 6: 6-10

"Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap; 8 because he who is sowing with a view to his flesh will reap corruption from his flesh, but he who is sowing with a view to the spirit will reap everlasting life from the spirit. 9 So let us not give up in doing what is fine, for in due season we shall reap if we do not tire out."

I believe these words and someday they will prove true. I only pray to be alive to see the day when all bloodguilty religions will have to face the judgement of the EVIL SLAVE "the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be."

In the meantime "let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related in the faith."

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I am considering suicide...

by Nebeska Nada in

jw
friends

under the wheels of a train.... .

i feel really bad.... i don't want to be in the cult anymore.... .

i was thinking about that whole meeting today.... .

discreetslave

Size milk said "Suicide victims don't actually want to end their life . . . they want to end their pain . . . which becomes unbearable, totally unbearable. Knowing that the pain can be ended another way . . . and it can . . . is what you must know and believe.

Those of us that know that pain, and are still here, are living testimony . . . it is possible. And aren't we glad that it is."

I totally agree. I too have been stuck in the dark cloud. Continue to reach out & get help.

Freeing myself from their mental grip has been indescribable I get giddy over my thought of being physically free.

This scripture always got me through the dark days don't let the use of it by WT cloud the comfort it truly gives please follow along with me friends

Isaiah 41:9-11 you, whom I have taken hold of from the extremities of the earth, and you, whom I have called even from the remote parts of it. And so I said to you, ‘You are my servant; I have chosen you, and I have not rejected you. 10 Do not be afraid, for I am with you. Do not gaze about, for I am your God. I will fortify you. I will really help you. I will really keep fast hold of you with my right hand of righteousness.’
11 “Look! All those getting heated up against you will become ashamed and be humiliated. The men in a quarrel with you will become as nothing and will perish. 12 You will search for them, but you will not find them, those men in a struggle with you. They will become as something nonexistent and as nothing, those men at war with you. 13 For I, Jehovah your God, am grasping your right hand, the One saying to you, ‘Do not be afraid. I myself will help you.’

In verse 11 "the men at quarrel with you" means in your case the WBTS & its minions take comfort for God promises in verse 12 "they will become as something nonexistent & as nothing" The God who can not lie has promised this to you dear brothers & sisters. Do not lose heart remember the words of the Psalmist "In God I have put my trust. I shall not be afraid. What can earthling man do to me?". We must not dear friends allow Satan & his publicity agents to break our integrity. We are in a fight, a fight for our lives.

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Saturday's Drama District Convention

by Mickey mouse in

jw
friends

i have to hand it to the society, they have big brass balls.. one of the lines in the drama: "i've been doing some research online, you're in a cult, they're brainwashing you!

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discreetslave

After telling the girl she's in a cult he twisted the things the father said, so this fed the apostates are twisted & mentally diseased mentality.

The DC sealed it for me. I was talking myself back in but after DC I saw that they are guilty of all they accuse apostates of. I was watching the drama in a state of shock. I always use to laugh at the generalizations and think how cute were so wholesome we overstate the things in the world. Now I'm so disgusted at how 7.5 million people have been sucked in by the very ones they warn people against

1 Timothy 6:1-5 These are the things you are to teach and insist on. 3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4 they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5 and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

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Why I didnt left JW an dont plan to do so

by Lazarus in

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in another thread i wrote: i didn't left the jw's and don't plan to do so.

discreetslave

My love of God and my bible trained conscience keep urging me "Get out of her my people if you do not want to share in her sins..."

These words give me comfort Luke 18:27-30

"27 He said: “The things impossible with men are possible with God.” 28 But Peter said: “Look! We have left our own things and followed you.” 29 He said to them: “Truly I say to YOU, There is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 who will not in any way get many times more in this period of time, and in the coming system of things everlasting life.”

JW's say they believe those words I always have. These words brought me in now they are my comfort on the way out. My exit strategy is to keep status quo for a while. Fortunately for me the friends know I do not place literature right away. I have always used the bible for the first few calls then introduced literature. All my conscience will allow is to place a bible. I count all the time I spend teaching my kids the BIBLE. I stopped using the teach book for my daughters study. I also count time and RV's for my talks and spiritual discussions I have with friends. I even count the time on this forum. A clean conscience has always been important to me. I am looked up to in the cong. and have been called a pillar. I hope my leaving will awaken someone. I picture someone at least thinking WTF when I'm announced.

Sidenote --my husband gets turned on when I discuss spiritual things so meeting & family worship nights are orgasmic.