I feel bad for this guy too. Good job posting Rick. This guy is really hurting but he is so sadly mistaken to think the "organization" actually cares about us individually. As Franz said, they will work so hard to get someone new into the org but put little effort into keeping anyone. This guy needs to divorce and move on and get FULL visitation rights UNSUPERVISED. That is bull crap to put up with. I know ridiculous witnesses and they will always be uber super-self righteous and never change!!!! A stupid "sister-in-law" of my 60 yr. old sister actually said she needed a chaperone at the house with her husband and he other brother-in-law while her husband was in the hospital DYING of cancer and nearly dead. Chaperon a 60 yr. old woman!!!! My god, how crazy these people are. I came out and told her that she is a product of her training...as much as she is stupid, the JW org. taught her to be this stupid!!!!
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by koolaid-man introubled former witness calls legal department at the watchtower organization.............. dale beckman says, can the "society" be guilty of "alienation of affection?
" in my case, my family has been told it is proper to hate me and to do nothing to help me in any way - otherwise, they could be considered a sharer in my works of "unforgivable sin.
" they are told not to even greet me.
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what is the history of this site?
by tornapart inhi, i just wanted to know as i came here believing it is an 'anti-jw' site.
or at least one where former jws can meet together (or ones struggling within the wt).
yet looking at some early posts it seems it was originally for active jws.
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Based on all the whining I am seeing here, I think I still perfer ExJehovahsWinessesForum on Yuku. Seems more adult oriented conversations and has been divisions of different types of discussions. I better stop for those that have left the organization. This site is just to full of BS at times.
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I feel ethically compromised by Rick Fearon being allowed to continue posting here
by sabastious ini'm not entirely sure why, but rick has been the biggest trigger for me.
i have said some very mean things to him that i regret and i apologize to rick for them.
but what he is doing leaves me feeling dirty and i don't even know him.
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I know I am realatively new to this board but I have been on others for a long time and after 40 years as a Witness, I tend to be very tolerent of what others believe or even try to sell in light of the strick life I led before. I take what ANYONE says on a board with a grain of salt and don't necessarily believe what they say...so why not treat Rick the same way. I have enjoyed his story and show myself. As one person said, it is sort of like the tabloids but for me, it is another form of coming to grips with leaving JWs and dealing with all the feelings and emotions I have. Rick's show is just another stop for some in the process. I still enjoy listening to Bible based discussions or even off the wall discussions....then I can choose what to believe. I don't see any reason to ban him or anyone else myself. I have seen some pretty off the wall topics here, so why isn't there room for Rick? Is everyone here as intolerant as the KH they came from????? Just my opinion.
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The Watchtowers mission statement....changed ??when??
by mauiboy inseems to me that years ago the wt's mission statement inside the front cover of the magazine mentioned that when donations cease, it would be recognized that it was time to cease publication of the magazine.
does anyone else remember this...or am i losing it?
the satement now has nothing even suggesting such a sentiment, and i was wondering how others re-call it?
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I do remember them saying that if donations dried up and they couldn't publish, it would simply be another sign that their preaching work is nearing the end? But, as far as any change I have not heard of this myself from those I know that are still active. I have been out of touch for several years now myself.
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Former Bethelites, Rick Fearon and Everyone, read this!
by Iamallcool inif you have been in bethel, please let us know, so rick fearon can contact you via pm to see if johnny the bethelite is for real or not.
rick, prove it to us that he is not a fraud, otherwise we will make a petition to simon to end your johnny the bethelite charade for good.
we are tired of it.
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Why do you have it in so bad for Rick and Johnny? I listen to the show all the time. I sort of teat it like some of the public radio shows that talk about aliens picking people up from their farm in Iowa! I take it with a huge grain of salt. The woman from Legal, named Barbara seems 100% ligit based on what I have heard her say. Any way you look at it, it is a source of news and information about what is going on. Like the Internet, some true some false. Listen to Rick or don't....no one makes you? If you want someone telling you what to do, go back to the meetings...they will be happy there!
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60 yr. old needs chaperon????
by red21 inso, a female relative of mine who is 60 but inactive in the truth had their mate dying in the hospital.
the older sister + husband and old brother (of dying man) (active witnesses) come to visit and stay at their home.
the old sister is staying at the hospital around the clock for the duration of the visit but tells her sister-in-law that she must have a chaperon at the house if she is going to be there with her husband and her dying husbands older brother?
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So, a female relative of mine who is 60 but inactive in the truth had their mate dying in the hospital. The older sister + husband and old brother (of dying man) (active witnesses) come to visit and stay at their home. The old sister is staying at the hospital around the clock for the duration of the visit but tells her sister-in-law that she MUST have a chaperon at the house if she is going to be there with her husband and her dying husbands older brother? Is that messed up or what? So, I get a call to come down and chaperon a 60 yr. old woman????? I told her I would come and visit to support her but not as a chaperon. The relative insisted this was not to "blame" on the brothers but was just the older sister being so strict...but I am sorry, they are the PRODUCT of the religion that thinks a near widowed woman who is 60 needs a chaperon??????? Messed up I say!!!!
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Celebrating my Bday for the first time ever. The big 2-1
by stillstuckcruz inso i've been in the borg for 20 years.
and in two months i hit 21. i am technically still in and my parents don't know about me yet.
so i plan on celebrating my bday with just a few friends from high school.
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Have a great day...I have knew very few JW kids that didn't celebrate on their 21st., mine included, even if they didn't call it a BD party, that was what it was. Why not, it is a milestone in life!
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Mini Shephearding Call!!! Nice!
by tresdecu in...while i was on the couch drinking coffee and surfing jwd..;-) it was an elder and ms, trying to 'encourage' us to be a little more regular.
(i told him i'm fine, i get enough fiber in my diet...haha ok dumb joke).
i chatted with them for a few, exchanged some pleasantries, told them i've been havining some "medical" issues lately and that i appreciated their concern.
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I started fading after I voluntarily stepped down. They didn't want me to, I was getting close to being an elder, but, I could not get up on the stage in good conscience when I knew my marriage was on the rocks and I hated going to the meetings and out in service. Fortunately, the congregation was splitting and moving to new locations...I had a few calls but for the most part they seemed to either overlook me or just stopped worring about it. No more calls so far in a long long long long time! I would just continue to fade to any out there and just don't be obvious about anything if you want to stay on good terms with most JWs. I send out Holiday cards, just not to any JWs. I buy Christmas presents, but just not for any JWs. I don't put up a tree so no one would know. I vote in elections but no self respecting JW would be anywhere near a polling station! haha Actually, I have been amazed how I NEVER run into any of them at stores or the mall...almost never. I have run into a few DF'd and I immediately walk up and say hi to them! There is a great deal of freedom not being under the control of a few men! I am more relaxed in life and far less stressed than I was. Also, as a JW, you NEVER feel as if you are doing enough....NOT ANY MORE!!!!
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I think I'm in trouble.
by LoneWolf inhi, peeplezs!.
my little freckle-faced gal sent this to me this mawnin'.
how to start a fight.
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An older woman tells her husband that she wants a boob job. The husband replies, "then go get some toilet paper and wipe it on your boobs every day and they will get bigger". The wife, bewildered asks why he thinks that will work? "Because" the husband replies, "you have been wipping toilet paper on your a$$ for 30 years and look how big it is".
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JW Quirks
by snare&racket inwere you ever told......... .
women have one less rib,.
the human skin is made mostly of dust,.
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Were you ever told........
THESE RESPONSES ARE BASED ON MY 40 YEARS AS A JW, WHILE I AM NOT NOW, I CONSIDERED MYSELF PRETTY KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT THE TEACHINGS...HOWEVER, YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY! I HAVE HEARD STUPID
COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE BUT RAY FRANZ INTRODUCED ME TO MANY ARGUMENTS ABOUT JWS THAT I NEVER KNEW EXISTED BUT HE WAS RIGHT!Women have one less rib, THOUGHT THAT WAS MEN?
The human skin is made mostly of dust, NO, BUT THAT HUMANS WOULD RETURN TO DUST BUT WAS MOSTLY MAKE OF A FEW POUNDS OF CHEMICALS...OTHERWISE, NEVER HEARD THIS
Nobody knew before job that the earth was round, YES, ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT
Jerusalem was destroyed in 607bce, YES, ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT
Aluminium is evil, (seriously!) NEVER EVER HEARD THAT...THAT HAD TO BE A WACKO BROTHER
Ageing is down to one process that if switched off could stop ageing....NEVER HEARD THAT, THEY NEVER KNEW WHY WE AGED OR WHAT PROCESS PREVENTED IT BUT IT WAS JEHOVAH THAT TURNED IT OFF
The internet is 98% porn, NEVER HEARD THAT EXACT FIGURE BUT THEY WOULD ACT OR THINK THAT WAY. MANY BROTHERS WERE JUST DOWN RIGHT IGNORANT ABOUT THE INTERNET. BEING A COMPUTER GUY I KNEW. HOWEVER, MANY INTERNET ADVANCES WITH STREAMING VIDEO WAS THE RESULT OF IMPROVING PORN SITES.
If evolution was true why dont monkeys turn into men now, (painfully ignorant) YES, ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT
Dinosaurs were used to flatten the earth, NEVER EVER HEARD THAT BUT THEY ALWAYS SEEMED TO GLASS OVER DINOSAURS AND WHEN OR HOW THEY FIT INTO CREATION
The flood made the mountains, HALF TRUTH, NEVER MUCH DISCUSSION ON OTHER GEOLOGICAL TYPE EVENTS THAT MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED
All species of animal could have originated as 200 'kinds', I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING THIS BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING TAUGHT IF I WAS A BETTING MAN!!!!
Neanderthals are human (latest evolution brochure) NEVER HEARD THAT BUT MABYE? NOT SURE
Masturbation can lead to poor health and even child abuse/homosexuality/ etc ... erm LOL, NEVER HEARD THAT THRU ANYTHING I EVER STUDIED BUT I CAN SEE WHERE SOME MIGHT DRAW THAT CONCLUSION AND IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD LOVE TO BUY. IF THERE WERE TRUE, THAN 99.999% OF ALL MEN WOULD BE CHILD ABUSERS OR HOMOSEXUAL!!!!
The photo by NASA was the first time we knew the earth was round for sure, NEVER EVER HEARD THIS. THERE WAS PLENTY OF SCIENTIFIC PROOF PRIOR TO NASA OR SPACE THAT IT WAS ROUND.
Atomic bomb testing causes earthquakes and tsunami's, NEVER EVER HEARD THIS
Psychology/Psychiatry is dangerous, THEY NEVER RECOMMENDED IT BECAUSE IT WAS BASED ON MEN'S WISDOM BUT EVENTUALLY THEY REALIZED THEY WERE IN NO WAY QUALIFIED TO COUNSEL MANY PEOPLE WITH THEIR PROBLEMS. THE BIBLE DID NOT HOLD THE ANSWERS OR HELP TO EVERY ISSUE PEOPLE WERE EXPERIENCING!
snare&racket Re: JW Quirks posted a day ago (10/22/2011)
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Since 5/18/2011Oh yeah... the smurfs, simpsons, dungeons and dragons, harry potter, lord of the rings, star wars, were evil.............
