would anyone reccomend a good material on .
(1) the history of the world.
(2) the history of religion.. i am just interested in man's development over the years to create gods for himself, any good book would be appreciated, and a review of the book highlighting a short summary is also welcome..
Would anyone reccomend a good material on
(1) The history of the world
(2) The history of religion.
I am just interested in Man's development over the years to create GODS for himself, any good book would be appreciated, and a review of the book highlighting a short summary is also welcome.
excerpt from my conversation with an elder.
elder: isn't it wonderful that we are the only one fulfilling this command of jesus christ recorded at john 13:35, by this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
no any other organisation exhibit the christlike love that we display.. me: thats true, but we are not perfect.. elder: compare with the catholic clergy and many christendom clergies who bless soldiers going to war and these may even end up killing their members in the destination country.. me: even nowadays, in so many congregations, there are frictions amongst brothers and sisters and some may even keep malice for years.
Excerpt from my conversation with an Elder
Elder : Isn't it wonderful that we are the only one fulfilling this command of Jesus christ recorded at John 13 :35, “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.” No any other organisation exhibit the christlike love that we display.
Me: Thats true, but we are not perfect.
Elder : Compare with the catholic clergy and many Christendom clergies who bless soldiers going to war and these may even end up killing their members in the destination country.
Me: Even nowadays, in so many congregations, there are frictions amongst brothers and sisters and some may even keep malice for years. Gossip spread around in the congregation, especially after some special announcements and those practises hinder the peace of the congregation.
Elder : Of course, it is normal, we are imperfect and satan the devil is at war with God’s people. So, he uses every tool at his disposal to threaten our peace. But in general, the degree of love we show cannot be matched. We have peace with God and it is clearly evident among us. Could you imagine the prompt direction from the GB to provide relief for brothers in Haiti and other disaster-plagued country. We even built houses for brothers and sisters in those situations. Could the priest in Rome direct the catholic members in the US to volunteer for its members in Haiti?, No, Never. They are alien from each other.
Me: Thats interesting, but there are some other organisations, like political organisations and volunteers worldwide who have also rally round these victims and they had no spiritual connections.
Elder : But, they have selfish motives, they may be boosting their record to enrich their CV.
Me: No matter what their motive might be, the deed was performed, love was shown and result was accomplished.
To be continued ..............
Do you think the elder was balanced in his views? Please offer your comments
i was discussing with an elder today, and as usual the conversation drifted towards apostates and their line of reasoning, he angrily looked into my eyes with the scriptures in his hand and told me:.
(1) that apostates are destructive peddlers who shut the door of everlasting life on people as they are very sure they have no portion in there.
he quoted matt 23:13- 13 woe to you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrites!
While the elder speaks and I looked into his face, I told him to allow God fight for himself, He fired back at me, He said that God has assigned the GB to care for spiritual matters on earth, so they are representing the interests of the kingdom. He started looking at me suspiciously and asked if i am sympathising with enemies of the kingdom, I quickly changed the topic of the discussion.
i was discussing with an elder today, and as usual the conversation drifted towards apostates and their line of reasoning, he angrily looked into my eyes with the scriptures in his hand and told me:.
(1) that apostates are destructive peddlers who shut the door of everlasting life on people as they are very sure they have no portion in there.
he quoted matt 23:13- 13 woe to you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrites!
I was discussing with an elder today, and as usual the conversation drifted towards apostates and their line of reasoning, He angrily looked into my eyes with the scriptures in his hand and told me:
(1) That Apostates are destructive peddlers who shut the door of everlasting life on people as they are very sure they have no portion in there. He quoted Matt 23:13- 13 “Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because YOU shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for YOU yourselves do not go in, neither do YOU permit those on their way in to go in.
He said this scripture rightly describes the activities of these peddlers, they have forfeited all they have learnt, they have lost hope on the bright future of everlasting life and they are going arround, looking for gullible ones who are seeking the kingdom with honest heart.
(2) He said some of these apostates abandoned the wife of their youth, they ventured into a life of abhorrence and they yet still having the clout to prove innoncence by influencing people on internet forums with cunning words. He said under normal circumstance, shame shouldnt allow them to request any audience amongst people of integrity. But it is disgusting that in this filthy world we live in, some ignorant fellows still celebrate them.
He goes on and on, condemning all acts of apostasy and all JW dissents, mentioning how blood guilty they are. Infact, If He had the opportunity, He is ready to chop off the head of many here.
My question is, do you feel that your activities here are synonymous to shutting the door of everlasting life on innocent people?. I just want to know if your motives are pure for what you are doing and if your experience as an ex-JW justify your presence here. Just curious.
i need an advice.... has been 2 months since i went to a meeting and or field service, i received a call from an elder saying that he wants my monthly report , i dont know what to do coz he is been calling me for 4 days now i dont want to answer the phone, but at the same time i feel like just sending the report.
the question is, should i fade slowly or just stop ?
my family isnt jw only my mom is inactive..
Just report an activity less than 10 hours and text it to him. He will let you rest. He is only doing his job.
being absorbed in making a living sometimes poses grave dangers.
it may lead to love of money.
in the first century, there was a group of religionists called pharisees who were known for their love of money.
Being absorbed in making a living sometimes poses grave dangers. It may lead to love of money. In the first century, there was a group of religionists called Pharisees who were known for their love of money. As an ex-Pharisee, the Christian apostle Paul was fully aware of their life-style. “Those who are determined to be rich,” warns Paul, “fall into temptation and a snare and many senseless and hurtful desires, which plunge men into destruction and ruin. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have . . . stabbed themselves all over with many pains. Yes, “love of money,” doing anything and everything for it, can ruin one’s life. Such a course does not result in happiness - WT 89 7/15
Since leaving the organisation, have you encountered any major challenge in the course of pursuing of wealth?, Have you felt your daily activities are tantamount to being stabbed all over with many pains because of reaching out to money. Has your life being ruined somehow for not heeding this advice, Please deliver your views on this.
isn't it depressing to believe that this is all there is to life?, an elder told me today that philosophers, apostates, free thinkers and many other enemies of the truth alike do not offer any hope for the future.
but this is the only organisation offering the hope.. what do you think?, the thought of living for just 70 or 80 yrs and not returning back is very depressing or do some other line of reasonings offer any hope?.
i am just curious..
Isn't it depressing to believe that this is all there is to life?, An elder told me today that philosophers, apostates, free thinkers and many other enemies of the truth alike do not offer any hope for the future. But this is the only organisation offering the hope.
What do you think?, The thought of Living for just 70 or 80 yrs and not returning back is very depressing or do some other line of reasonings offer any hope?. I am just curious.
because of listening to the devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized.
so, then, should we listen to apostates, read their literature, or examine their web sites on the internet?
if we love god and the truth, we will not do so.
Because of listening to the Devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized. So, then, should we listen to apostates, read their literature, or examine their Web sites on the Internet? If we love God and the truth, we will not do so. We should not allow apostates into our homes or even greet them, for such actions would make us ‘sharers in their wicked works.’ (2 John 9-11) May we never succumb to the Devil’s wiles by abandoning the Christian “path of truth” to follow false teachers who seek to “introduce ruinous ideologies” and try to ‘exploit us with well-turned phrases.’—2 Peter 2:1-3, WT 06 1/15 "Do not allow place for the devil"
Does anyone here felt he represents this description above?
what can we do to make the world a little bit better than we met it for the benefits of future generation?..
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all views are welcome.
What can we do to make the world a little bit better than we met it for the benefits of future generation?.
All views are welcome
i was with a fellow annointed one today, she is presently in her 80s, she keeps pondering on the new assignment she would receive upon arriving in heaven, she said that her hope had been made sure and the second sealing has been confirmed, she said she may be assigned to welcome ressurected ones in some part of the world or she may need to take up the responsibility of directing orderliness.
she continues to mention how delighted she would be to see some fellow annointed folks who had remained faithful then she goes on and on encouraging young ones like me who just started partaking to remain faithful till the end so that my hope can be made sure.. .
being a new partaker myself, i cant stop thinking how one could live arround this fantasy this long.
I was with a fellow annointed one today, she is presently in her 80s, She keeps pondering on the new assignment she would receive upon arriving in heaven, She said that her hope had been made sure and the second sealing has been confirmed, She said she may be assigned to welcome ressurected ones in some part of the world or she may need to take up the responsibility of directing orderliness. She continues to mention how delighted she would be to see some fellow annointed folks who had remained faithful then she goes on and on encouraging young ones like me who just started partaking to remain faithful till the end so that my hope can be made sure.
Being a new partaker myself, I cant stop thinking how one could live arround this fantasy this long. If we would truly go to heaven to rule with christ as we have been made to believe, It would indeed be a perfect arrangement, but if we would unfortunately end up being a manure or being burnt and spread over the sea, we may not recognize what happened to our remains, then how do we get hold on our spiritual elites- the GB and make them accountable for inconsistencies, deception and fallacy. Well, whichever way it goes, we will see.
