If one were to really look back at the history of the Catholic Church and the Vatican, they would see that spying and espionage has gone on for centuries, there have always been intrigues in the thrones of power...look at King David and Absalom, there were factions spying on each other in that God ordained government and how many milleniums have passed since then?
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NSA spying on Vatican! My JW parents are SOO EXCITED!
by BU2B init just came out yesterday that the nsa has spied on the vatican and pope francis.
when i went over my parents house yesterday, you could see the excitement, the energy in their eyes when they talked about it.
my dad even pumped his fist like he won something when he was talking about it.
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Sadly, fading is bad for my marriage
by stillin inwhile headship has always been a problem in my marriage, partly because i'm more of a team player and my wife has man issues, now that i'm clearly fading my wife feels that i have nothing of worth to say.. i resist the idea of divorce but this is not much of a marriage.
since she doesn't/ can't hold down a job alimony would be ridiculously expensive.
cheaper to keep her, as they say.. i get zero cooperation or even discussion for any adjustments i feel might be in order for us as we grow older: obabmacare?
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Oddly enough, I was a serial purchaser while 'in'. The continual shopping, online usually, was like a drug. Now that I'm free and faded, I rarely buy anything...got a new career too, once free of the 'why bother to do anything you would like to do, when the end is so close' mentality. Maybe your wife is self medicating by buying, buying, buying, like I was.
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A child that DIDN'T want to die ... a blood experience you won't read in Awake! or on JW.ORG
by wannabefree inwhile doing work for a client in her office recently, we got into a light discussion about religion.
she knew i was one of jehovahs witnesses as our business relationship started while i was still a loyal and believing jw.
anyway, i said something that she knew didnt quite fit and she said ... i thought you were one of jehovahs witnesses ... i shared my story ... she felt comfortable to confide in me a story as to why, even though she has had dealings with jehovahs witnesses who she thinks are good people, she would never even consider listening to them about their religion.. i asked her if she would write it down for me so that i could share ... she agreed.. this is her experience.. .
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None of the kids who died without blood transfusions wanted to, they were just more afraid of the threat eternal damnation than they were of death. So very pathetic.
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Ran into a witnessing table at the park today
by confusedandalone ini just got in from my daughters homecoming(she is a cheerleader and these guys make a huge deal out of this stuff).
they play 3 football games of various age groups.
it starts at 8 in the morning and just ended at 1:30. i just got in the house literally 5 minutes ago and i had to share.
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I agree with KoolJo-it is a way to keeps their butts out of trouble, they got to enjoy being outside on what looks like a lovely day and chat for hours with a friend and get tons of time in. Where was this program when I was in! What a perfect way to be out in service and avoid witnessing.
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Brooklyn Eagle Article: WT Tunnels - Mysterious, Lingering Remnants Ministerial Heights Presence
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/watchtower-tunnels-mysterious-lingering-remnants-ministerial-heights-presence-2013-10-16.
very interesting article.
how much do you think the wt has to pay the city for using their own four tunnels?.
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Latest Cable News Updates on Killer Jonathan Holt And The Murdered Young Oregon Barista Whitney Heichel
by Scott77 in.
"...jonathan holt, 24, a neighbor of heichel and a member of the same jehovah's witness church, appeared via closed-circuit television in clackamas county court wearing a suicide smock..." read cable news report of full story complete with photographs.
very excellent investigation.. http://abcnews.go.com/us/murdered-barista-whitney-heichel-raped-shot-times/story?id=17534209#.ujvk-w-hk8b
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This bastard should just plead guilty and spare the taxpayers the money of a trial.
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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Some JWs overseas use a false name to evade the authorities. Is this a common practice?
by dropoffyourkeylee ini had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then i realized i had messed up the title, so here goes again;.
i have learned from a credible source that jws from the us have recently gone to morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.
this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (i'm not sure which branch it would be, but i would guess france).
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Does anyone remember the similiar situation in the Phillipines about 14-15 years ago? The brother who risked his neck to preach the word in a VERY Muslim area disguised as a cosmetics salesman (Avon? can't remember exactly). He was captured and beheaded. His physical brother had to collect his head which was in a box. It was all over the news. It wouldn't surprise me if something along the same vein happened in Muslim Morroco...and the WTBTS will be able to wring their hands and say 'too bad, too bad' and be completely absolved of compilicity, as they weren't funding or helping these poor deluded in their preaching work, it was merely a suggestion to go to where the need is greater.
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My granny died.
by LouBelle inlast week friday i was delayed in going to work, for which i am glad.
it was an opportunity for me to help my gran one last time.
she thanked me, told me she loved me and that i would be very blessed.
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An Interesting Thing Happened at the Meeting Yesterday...
by PaintedToeNail inthis was reported to me by an attendee: during the watchtower, a brother commented that "we shouldn't question things that we don't have the full facts about, such as why is it so expensive to have an assembly at the grantville assembly hall?
it would be far cheaper to rent our own space to have an assembly than it is to use grantville.
we don't have all the facts so we don't know the reasons why and it isn't our place to question".
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I thought it was interesting that this brother introduced something so unrelated to the Watchtower Study, almost as if he planned to plant a seed of doubt and questioning at the KH.