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  Husband beats wife, husband studies with JWs, husband stops beating wife, all live happily ever after... help needed!

  by cedars in

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  without going into details, i'm doing some work on the recent feb 15th watchtower article, namely the experience that appears to excuse a husband beating his wife who is not sufficiently showing christian qualities, etc.. i am putting together a statement on the subject, and it occurred to me that the scenario of a violent husband beating his wife, then studying and becoming a witness is not entirely new in itself to the publications.

  this alone is troubling, because there is repeated suggestion that staying with a violent husband is necessary in order to "win him over".

  (1 peter 3:1).

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  Oh yes, on here it looks like the end, justified the means NOT!

  cj
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  New Field Service Policy - jw's assigned to neighborhoods

  by skeeter1 in

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  i am looking for confirmation on the following:.

  jws are now being individually assigned to smaller territories, and they are told to consistently work that same territory over & over again.

  the reason is that the watchtower wants the jws to build relationships with the people in that area.

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  Slightly off topic, but not to far-I did a convicted pedophile check for my local area. Lo and behold, one small village had a load of them. Why? The rents their are extremely cheap and the rest of the village looks like the locals inbreed. I told the MS handling the territories, he was going to bring it up to the elders, as beautiful, young sisters were working that village. So many homes converted into apt.s that the girls would be invisible from the front of the houses as they called on the apt. out back. There weren't too many young boys in the cong., but that was a worry still. That Territory still isn't marked as being pedophile haven. A well meaning sister at the hall recently invited me and mine to work that territory with her, but I kindly declined. I don't do that stuff anymore

  CJ
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  In the LAST DAYS (mockers, scoffers) ridiculers will come saying:

  by Terry in

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  2. bible

  (2 peter 3:1-13) ... niv....."in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.they will say, where is this coming he promised?

  ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.

  waaaaay back when these words were written an embarassing awareness of delay was in the air among christians.. shortly after jesus was executed the story was circulated that he arose from the dead and was witnessed by a great many people.. but, jesus (it was said) went up to his father in heaven and would soon return.. time passed.. more time passed.. ....and still more time passed without jesus coming back.. the idea that deliverance was "near" began to make believers squirm with discomfort.. instead of standing around waiting, enduring persecution and praying constantly for reward....a new task emerged for christians to take.

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  @leavingwt-when and from where, did you get info about Jesus being a false prophet. I would love to see the research too! Sorry is anything is coming out oddly, I took an ambien and strating to fade.

  CJ
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  I was counselled regarding my prayer-ridiculous,

  by iclone in

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  2. beliefs

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  Strange that you mention praying for everyone. When the devastating earthquake, tsunami, and radiation hit Japan earlier this year, I told my kids it was appropriate to pray for all those in that country suffering from the devastation. They were surprised, yet happy, to know that it was okay to pray for people not JW's, and they proceeded to do so.

  CJ
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  My observation, the "threefold cord" actually weakens a marriage

  by Robert7 in

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  2. friends

  so my wife and i survived leaving the jw faith together over the course of the last 4 years.

  it was a wild ride for our relationship, but thankfully we are stronger than ever.

  so looking back, here is my observation about the "threefold cord", at least the jw version of it.. i believe the idea of the threefold cord actually weakens a marriage, keeping it less mature.

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  I think the thought of a three fold cord being a strengthener in marriage was probably to prevent people from linking up with someone from a totally different religion. Think of the stress to be endured at the time the bible was written, if one worshipped Zeus and the other worshipped Jehovah. They weren't terribly compatible and could cause a lot of problems.

  The same is true now, the closer a couple is in their fundamental backgrounds and goals, the more compatible they tend to be.

  An excellent example is those of us who are no longer buying into the WTBTS dogma, and who have spouses who are still active. It causes tremendous stress.

  That people feel trapped in a miserable marriage while active in the Org. is very true. I was married to a total toad years ago, and felt I couldn't get rid of him, because Jehovah wouldn't approve, plus I wouldn't be able to remarry. He finally ended up getting VD and I didn't. I was so happy! Finally I could get rid of the toad and keep my family and friends and not have to worry about getting DF'd for divorcing him.

  The thought of being married to an elder is horrifying to me. The wives are often told 'don't be jealous of Jehovah', which I don't think they are, they are just sick of everyone in the cong. coming before them.

  CJ
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  Looking up old friends

  by sabastious in

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  2. friends

  i had this neighbor growing up, his name was butch.

  he and his wife lived down the dirt street i grew up on even before i was born.

  they were wordly, but they were also my neighbors so i was allowed to have limited association with them.

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  You should try to find him, he sounds like he was really nice and was a good friend to you. He'd probably love to have you contact him.

  CJ
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  Playing the old tapes

  by rebel8 in

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  i was just watching a movie and it had a prison scene with a rat.

  my automatic thought was, "oh, i hope there aren't rats when i'm in prison.".

  lol!!!

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  Funny, my spouse and I were just talking about this very thing yesterday. We were little kids before the 1975 hoopla. Everyone was saying that we would all be in prisons, families separated, tortured, starved. It was very, very traumatic for me, and I think it was this constant state of fear that gave me OCD and anxiety and panic episodes. And they say the concept of burning in hell is bad.

  CJ
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  Eurozone crisis- the jw's are crowing about it like mad!

  by highdose in

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  2. friends

  over the past few weeks i've been told that the eurozone will go into melt down and that this will be the start of armargeddon because the goverments will then turn on religon to get their money instead.. i have been told that the greek pm almost rejecting the greek bailout plan would lead to armargeddon.

  of course much to the jw's disapointment the greek pm resigned and the greeks did accept the bail out.

  thus saving the greek banks from collapse and thus the rest of the european banks.. i have been told that italys debt will mean they will plunder the vatican for its wealth!

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  AnnOMaly-Wow! I thought it was a new article, instead of a nearly forty year old one!

  CJ
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  Why do we have to 'prove' anything to God. (This point made at assembly today)

  by PaintedToeNail in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the point was made at the assembly today, that we have to 'prove' our love for jehovah to him.

  as i sat there, bored, this thought struck me as odd.

  since jehovah is supposed to be able to read 'hearts', why do we as humans, have to prove anything to him, since he already knows us down to our kidneys and would know if we loved him or not.

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  thetrueone-The huge number of animal sacrifices in the OT is staggering to say the least. The scriptures that talk about having to pour out the blood, or sprinkle the blood, always made me wonder if there was a horrid odor of decay at the slaughtering site, and what about the number of flies that would be attracted to gore.

  Joliette-You, my dear, are no more crazy than I am at wondering the same exact thing!

  popcorn-You are right, so many of the articles do seem to be on the remain desirable vane.

  CJ
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  Why do we have to 'prove' anything to God. (This point made at assembly today)

  by PaintedToeNail in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the point was made at the assembly today, that we have to 'prove' our love for jehovah to him.

  as i sat there, bored, this thought struck me as odd.

  since jehovah is supposed to be able to read 'hearts', why do we as humans, have to prove anything to him, since he already knows us down to our kidneys and would know if we loved him or not.

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  Black Sheep-Funny, I never felt I had a good heart when I was doing all the things one is supposed to do to 'prove' oneself to Jah.

  Avocado-The predestination thing has always been troubling. If Jehovah knows what the outcome of a matter is from the beginning, what is the point of trying. It has left my eyes wobbling too.

  CJ