Would the WT allow a memeber to do overtime to ensure that he or she can provide for the family? WT doctrine is no different from any other church. RC church who they vermently villify that adorned themselves in riches and monies. I find it disturbing in this century people would put an worn out ideal before their well being. I sit here thinking about the don't love money ideal. It relates to who? Rich men? Governments? Jesus was lucky to have been provide with presents at his birth. How many parents today would love to be able to provide that something extra for their children when it really counted? Hard to do when you have a religious monkey on your back telling you you should be working for him for free!!
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Sept. 15th WT - WT Society Hypocritically Disses " Materialistic " JW's
by flipper inas many of us are aware the wt society has done quite nicely in a material way for themselves.
the sales of properties of the former " bethel " in brooklyn amassed them millions of more $$$$ .
they have relocated into upstate new york and are building like wildmen.
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Illuminati and the Watchtower
by marriedtoajw innow i know this forum has already touched on this topic many times but i'm coming at this from a personal angle.
as i've said on this forum before, my wife is an active jw and has been getting more and more active while trying to indoctrinate my 21 year old son, who still lives at home and is not working but is going to a community college.
my wife takes him and my 7 years old daughter to some meetings and conventions.
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NoStonecutters. I would instantly recognise some information in what you are saying by the fact you mensioned the occult. I knew someone who was Studying Mme Blavatskis doctrines and was part of an occult society. Heaven knows I cannot remember the societys' name she was linked to however learning a few things about Mme Blavatski she was about at the same time as Russel. A brief encounter with some information about Russel mensioned her name. She has clearly a prayer which included the words "Gods Great Plan" entwinded within the prayer for Occultists. Not much info but history and knowledge will show connections and influences which bring about todays thinking of religious leaders.
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The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology
by Christ Alone ini posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.
here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.
in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.
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We should actually isten to children, give them the respect they deserve. I was thrown out of my JW serving wifes house for contradicting her. My son said she was rubbish. He was referring to the amount of time she took getting upstairs to read him a story, and yes this is true.... always has to just tidy up or read some more of that awake garbage.... She was livid at his statement. shouting and screaming.
She should have discussed it with him rather than punish him. I understood exactly what he was talking about we'd discussed it. Although she was saying it was disrespectful and he shouldn't say things like that about adults. She is wrong. He has formed and gave an honest opinion. ( I think in all honestly is that she knew she was wrong and couldn't admit it). She also is the sort of person who has never asppologized to anyone. My son doesn't like her much.. Where is the love JC was preaching about?
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Forget the Watchtower,...we are celebrating Christmas
by trailerfitter inlast year i banned a bible class from my house on christmas eve because i took the impression they were coming to gloat over taking my wife away with them.
i celebrated the seasons festivities with my son.
this year, now i am seperated from her i will be having my son around to celebrate the festivities, i will be seeing him take part in the school nativity play (even if i am and atheist).
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Last year I banned a bible class from my house on christmas eve because I took the impression they were coming to gloat over taking my wife away with them. I celebrated the seasons festivities with my son. THis year, now I am seperated from her I will be having my son around to celebrate the festivities, I will be seeing him take part in the school nativity play (even if I am and Atheist). It is a good warm time. Forget what the WT have said in their publications about being a stressful time of the year. What do they know?
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"it's a blessing"
by carla insince when do jw's say "it's a blessing"?
especially in reference to non jw things?
example, " it is such a blessing to have x,y or z government agency to help...." is this normal?
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It is part of our english cultural language probabally used 100o years ago. Take a look at how many biblical and nautical references there are in everyday Languages.
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Jehovah's Witnesses DO NOT break up families
by irondork injehovah's witnesses do not break up families.
members who refuse to become or remain jehovah's witnesses... break up families.. really, you apostates have such a distorted perception of reality.. .
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I would so much like to puch irondorks face in right now unless he is joking.
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I know very few JW window washers and cleaners
by MC RubberMallet inmaybe these occupations are quoted to make a point, but it loses meaning when maybe 1% of brothers i know actually has these as jobs..
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Our neighbour years ago was a window cleaner. My mum window cleaner and carpenter is JW. When I went to a party with "her" most of the males were window cleaners.
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Gotcha Liar!!! Help needed dealing with deceptive JW.
by trailerfitter inyep jws are supposed to be honest aren't they?
they are liars decivers and most of all encourage hate in family circles whilst pretending they are the victims.
anyone who makes out they are a victim is a coward!
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It's very true cedars, honesty is the best way forward.. I would like to expose her as a fraud. Are these tactics something like how she was snared up with the JWs in the first place?
How can someone bring the good news to people across the globe whilst they are acting deceptively?.
The boy wants to live with me and if I could influence things to do it I would let him stay. I really do not want him to become a servant to the WT working for free teling a falsehood for the rest of his life.
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Gotcha Liar!!! Help needed dealing with deceptive JW.
by trailerfitter inyep jws are supposed to be honest aren't they?
they are liars decivers and most of all encourage hate in family circles whilst pretending they are the victims.
anyone who makes out they are a victim is a coward!
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Yep JWs are supposed to be honest aren't they? Well they are not. They are liars decivers and most of all encourage hate in family circles whilst pretending they are the victims. Anyone who makes out they are a victim is a coward! Sorry,... that is a generalisation however my ex partner is a deceiver and a liar and she is a self proclaimed "I am an honest JW- I don't lie" .
I have for the last few months, after seeing my ex partner move out, after deceiving the housing authorities to give her a house as 'according to her' I wanted her out. Actually this wasn't true. I offered her to take over the tenancy agreement for the house that I walked out of. Nope! Jehovah will provide a better residence (which she got by being decietful).
I have struggled with her, on many occations as she trys to find a reason to start an arguement which includs, shouting, pushing me out of her new house (after repairing many things including laying floors).
Now I have found that when she says that my boy, who I go and collect is having guest..... it is a secret,... it's no-one or nothing special but she does this in front of my son and make a point of telling this with me there. Tonight he wanted to come around mine, she said no, they're have guests again. This made him excited at the thought of having someone to play with. I got a phone call from him later on, there were no children, just 2 adults and he was fed up.. I felt his dissapointment. He got his mother to the phone, who didn't really want to talk to me. I explained to her that he was dissapointed and that he did want to come and stay around mine so, like usual, I could take him to school the next morning. Her answer was,...."well aren't I allowed guests" in an arrogant tone before throwing the phone down
Point being that she decived him into staying with her with the promise of some guests of his own age. I thought deception was part of Satans snare? Aren't JWs supposed to set a good example?..I think mental strain is showing or was that the theocratic warefare leaking out.
Anyway, for those who have been through simular, what can I do to deal with this?? Perhaps a camera pointed at her will make her think twice?
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses feed the starving in third world countries
by Gnosis in.
or do they only help their own members ?.
is there anything in their publications that seems to cast a negative view on feeding the poor ?.
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Hi Wasblind.... . My ex goes to the KH to feel better and i think this is a drug to her as she is a feeler rather than a thinker. The repetion possibly is lke listening to a favourite record. For me it's like hearing nails drawn across a blackboard and try to avaoid it at all costs.