Sadly, the reasons/allegations given for banning the JW's are all true. But, according to human rights advocates, the JW's have a "right" to their religious form of oppression and falsehood.
Posts by Mum
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14Jehovah's Witnesses in Southern Russia Face New Charges
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://en.ria.ru/russia/20130408/180515407.htm.
rostov-on-don, april 8 (ria novosti) prosecutors in the southern russian city of taganrog have charged 16 jehovah's witnesses with taking part in the activities of an extremist organization after they allegedly resurrected the banned local branch of the international religious organization.. according to investigators, the religious groups followers continued to hold regular meetings after their local branch was banned in the city in 2009. at the meetings, they allegedly incited hatred against other religions, circulated extremist literature and called for military draft dodging.. the suspects also attempted to involve children in their activities and collected money for the organization, the prosecutors said in a statement.. the case materials will be sent to the taganrog city court after the suspects are informed of the charges, the statement said.. the jehovah's witnesses organization, which has more than seven million followers worldwide, including over 130,000 in russia, has been banned in a number of russian regions and in some former soviet republics over its religious beliefs.. the jehovah's witnesses branch in the russian capital was dissolved by a district court ruling in 2004, but the european court of human rights declared the decision illegal in 2010.. .
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Any ex elder/bethelite willing to talk/email with awakening JW?
by SeekingTheRealTruth ini am mostly a lurker here..i check this website everyday.
my husband and i left the religion 3 years ago.
all my family were active jws when we left, but that is all changing now.
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Mum
Congratulations! It is wonderful to have your family with you as you exit. Best wishes to all of you in your new life of freedom.
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Flash Backs
by hopelesslystained inhow do you deal with them?
from experiencing falsely based family accusations.
commitee meetings (old term).
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Mum
Once I told a co-worker that every time I go back home to visit, I have nightmares about my sperm donor. He was brutal.
She offered a wonderful and funny suggestion. She told me that when he appears in my dreams, dress him in a little pink tutu, pink ballet slippers, and have him dance around holding a little ruffled umbrella.
I haven't, for some reason, quite got to the point of placing him in that ridiculous costume, but the last couple of times I have dreamed about him, I have taken charge. In one dream, I got out my cell 'phone and called 911. In another, I found the car keys and got my daughter and granddaughter out of the house.
There is a tribe somewhere (Phillippines?) we learned about in Psychology class that makes an effort to bring back the bad things in their dreams and overcome them. I think it's a great idea!
I have had dreams that I was back with my JW ex as well, probably out of pity. But I haven't dreamed of him for a very, very long time.
Hang in there!
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Being honest & fair, can you think of anything that the Watchtower does that's beneficial to the public?
by Theocratic Sedition ini'm curious, as where i reside there's about to be a major brouhaha over the tax exempt status of a major player in this area.
reading and hearing the arguments from both sides conjured thoughts about the tax exempt status of religions and the arguments associated with that issue.
a significant portion of the arguments related to that issue center around how a tax exempt organization benefits it's community.
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Mum
I think some suicides have been prevented by the Watchtower.
Many suicides have been caused by the WT society's policies and cruel representatives.
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so now what?
by Kaltas1 ini don't really know what to say i'm a bit nervous.
but i am new here and i want to say thank you all for these forums and the many contributions people have made.. for about 9 months i been frequenting here and other places on the net while i have undergone an in depth bible analysis.
after finding that my bible is not consistant with the more favorable options of translating greek words especially in key doctinal areas, i have concluded the great unlikelyhood of jehovah's witnesses having god's blessing and approval.. not just that though.
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Mum
I'm sending you a PM.
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so now what?
by Kaltas1 ini don't really know what to say i'm a bit nervous.
but i am new here and i want to say thank you all for these forums and the many contributions people have made.. for about 9 months i been frequenting here and other places on the net while i have undergone an in depth bible analysis.
after finding that my bible is not consistant with the more favorable options of translating greek words especially in key doctinal areas, i have concluded the great unlikelyhood of jehovah's witnesses having god's blessing and approval.. not just that though.
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Mum
You sound like you're being a bit impatient with yourself. It takes time to overcome the effects of being in a high control group.
Your research is impressive. Do you read and understand Greek?
Welcome to the forum.
Regards,
SandraC
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"Apostasy took root and flourished" (WT, July 15, 2013, page 18)
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Mum
So, there was a great "apostasy" in the first century? This assertion reminds me of a passage in 1984 where Winston (or his tormentors) make the observation that those who control the present control the past. I have not heard of this "apostasy" from any other source.
IMHO, they are drawing a parallel between the first century and the present to get the publishers to believe there has always been "apostasy" and they'll ride it out.
Who knows?
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breaking up is hard to do
by fresh prince of ohio inbackground: i joined the jws when i was 21, left about 11 years ago.. up until recently, i had never been in a relationship that went longer than a few months.
and that was just one.. i've been with my current for the past 3.5 years.
she's, just, okay.. i've never felt like, oh, i love her so much.
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Mum
You will only create more misery for both of you if you continue this relationship. Work on finding someone who is right for you.
Is she a JW? Are you?
Find a reason that she will accept to end it, as soon as possible.
Talk to a mental health professional to get some tips on how to do what you must do.
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IT IS NOT A CULT!!
by Butterflyleia85 init is not a cult!!!
if you weren't mesmerized by the internet since ya know it never lies!
read the bible how do they go against it.
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Mum
My non-JW brother-in-law has had a brother, two sisters-in-law (his brother's wife and me) and a daughter who have been dubs. Only his brother and sister-in-law are still dubs, his brother being a recent convert whose wife converted in the early '70's.
Recently, my b-i-l's mother died, and hs brother and sister-in-law behaved arrogantly. They would not come inside the funeral home, although they did show up for the funeral. We don't know if it is because my ex-JW niece was there or because a Baptist minister was performing the service. Either way, they stayed outside.
A few weeks ago, some JW's showed up at my sister's and b-i-l's front door. My b-i-l started yelling at them and told them they were a crazy cult and that there was no way he was going to let some old men in Brooklyn run his life. They asked him about his brother. He said that he never sees his brother since his brother became a JW (just a year or two ago, I think, after living with a JW wife for many years).
My sister was not present when all of this occurred, but she found out about it and told it to me the other day.
I was the first to become a JW in our family. I feel almost responsible for some of this nonsense.
When a man won't go to his own mother's funeral after that mother did a lot for him, that's a sure sign that he's in a cult.
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OATMEAL
by compound complex ini wanted eggs for breakfast when i was a kid, but we were poor.
bobby, my little brother, got an egg once a week for breakfast and sis and i got oatmeal.
oatmeal everyday with blue powdered milk.
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Mum
Here's a funny story about eggs. You were not the only egg-deprived child, it seems. Sam Levinson was, too.
If you've ever read any books or articles by Sam Levinson, you've had some good laughs. In one of his books he explains why he and his brothers never got to eat eggs. There was only one sister and about eight brothers in the Levinson household. When Mrs. Levinson had eggs, she gave them to her daughter to ensure that her daughter would reproduce when she got older. I think Sam describes it as a "fertility ritual" of some kind.