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  Contributing factor to Roman Catholics converting to JW

  by NeverKnew in

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  my jw friend once asked that if churches were so great why did so many roman catholics convert to his religion.

  now i have some semblance of an answer!.

  i spoke with a professor who definitely had some familiarity with the wts.

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  Mum

  juanvazquez, welcome to the forum.

  I read a book once by Barbara Grizutti Harrison, who was brought up as a JW after her family left the Roman Catholic Church. She left the JW religion as a young adult. The title of rhe book is Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of the Jehovah's Witnesses. She had a Jewish friend named Arnold who would defend her and even hold her hand when she refused to salute the flag or stand for the national anthem. There's a chapter in the book called "God Can't Kill Arnold."

  Be supportive of your wife, but find ways to make her question the bizarre beliefs she has been taught. This can go a long way in getting her to open her mind to other ideas. But don't expect anything to happen too quickly. Overcoming the brainwashing takes a lot of time.
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  Shunning squared

  by Apostating in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings my fellow warriors,.

  i have not posted my bio yet, i tried but i can't yet.. however this i can share.

  i have been divorced from my jw wife for two years now.

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  Mum

  It's heart wrenching. I went through a similar situation with my daughter. It's hell. The best day of my life was when my daughter turned 18, and her dad couldn't use her as a pawn to punish me. She wants nothing to do with the Watchtower now. Her in-laws go to a fundamentalist church, and the service makes her physically ill. She can only go to liturgical churches, where the focus is on worship, not evangelizing and/or judging.

  Take one day at a time. Be sure the kids understand that you love and accept them for who they are and regardless of their choices of religion. Be sure they have a good time with you, and are going to have good memories of their time with you when they're older. I hope you don't talk to them about what's wrong with the WT. They'll figure it out by watching behaviors.

  Hang in there. It'll get better with time.
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  Casual sexism in Watchtower literature

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i notice the sexist language of the watchtower a lot more these days.

  is it on the increase or am i simply more tuned into to noticing it now?

  for example this statement in the june kingdom ministry:.

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  Galatians 3:28 says that in Christ there is no male or female, Jew nor Greek, slave nor free. Their rejection of Christ gives them free reign to classify some human beings as inferior in some way they never really explain, because there is no explanation.

  Men have upper body strength. It's a simple physical phenomenon that keeps women down. He can hurt you if you don't obey.
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  WHAT HAPPENS when a lawyer starts his OWN RELIGION?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  first, pastor russell had joined adventist bible students in their enthusiam for end times chronologies.. next, russell teamed up with leading adventist thinkers like george storrs and barbour to publish these chronologies and apologies.. finally, russell used his private wealth to cut and paste ideas from all over the religious map into his own peculiar name-brand version of adventism which included pyramidology.. local congregations kept autonomy.

  russell would have it no other way.

  but, russell had died in 1916.. .

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  I went to the site and copied Jan's thesis to MS Word. Jan is brilliant. I wish he still posted here.
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  The scientific method; published, peer reviewed, and repeatable

  by jgnat in

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  2. humour

  that's my definition of reliable, and i am sticking to it, lol.. back in january, scientists started making secret confessions on twitter using the hashtag #overlyhonestmethods.

  and now some kind soul (who probably should have been doing their research instead of playing around on the internet) combined a few of these tweets with lab photos for the rest of us to enjoy.... http://twentytwowords.com/2013/06/27/scientists-explain-their-processes-with-a-little-too-much-honesty-17-pictures/.

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  Those are hilarious!
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  Hello and my exit story from WTS

  by free2Bme13 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought it was fitting for me to share my freedom from the witnesses story on independence day weekend.. i dont have any secret info, just experiences that happened to me and started to open my eyes.. i was a third generation, raised in the truth kid who was never supposed to be born, and then never supposed to graduate high school.

  ive now been out of high school longer than i was in school.. the beginning of the end started a little less than a decade ago.

  i was late 20s at the time.

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  Mum

  Welcome!
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  My Grandma passed away

  by Kool Jo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good day all:.

  while at work a couple days ago, i got a call that my grandma passed away.

  she would've been 86 next week, but she still lived her life...so i'm getting emails ect from my home congregation from folks just checking up on me.

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  I'm so sorry, KJ, Grandmothers are a wonderful resource and comfort. I'm sure she's happier now.
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  Was I too harsh?

  by chrisuk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, first let me apologixe for both my spelling and my grammer in advance, both are not my strong points.. i'll keep this short.

  since i've been a child my mother has studied on and off with jw's ( i'm now 34) so i've been around it most of my life, i studied on and off myself for around 10 years.

  thank's to this site and jwfacts i'll never study or step foot inside a kingdom hall again.

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  Mum

  Welcome, chris. Your e-mail was very well written as others have stated. There are lots of nice guys in the world. Some are Catholic, Baptist, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, etc. Just because someone is a nice guy, that's no reason to convert to his crazy religion.

  Best wishes. Keep coming back.
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  What piece of WT literature is worth holding onto, or have you kept? Why?

  by losingit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have basically thrown away all of my bound volumes and loose wt and awake magazines.

  i kept some bpoks, the insight to the scriptures, god's love, the reasoning book, and daniel's prophecies (this was my favorite) .

  i held onto insight to the scriptures after reading some of ray franz's book, crisis of conscience.

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  Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God because it predicts the end by 1975. There were some Wathtowers and Awakes as well with this "prophecy." I had a copy (don't know if I still have it) of the magazine with "The Generation that Cannot Pass Away" or similar wording.

  This is very important for young witnesses who don't believe you when you tell them about 1975. My niece, born in 1975, told me the 1975 thing was made up by individual witnesses. She knows better now and is no longer a dub, I'm happy to report!
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  Are Jehovahs Witnesses raised to be Anti-American?

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was thinking about this yesterday on the 4th?

  due to the practices, no voting, shunning activities, not getting involved with the community, school, etc, etc.

  what do you guys think?

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  Mum

  When I first left the borg, I moved to another state with a cousin and got a job right away. One time at work, for some reason I can't recall, we were discussing religion, and JW's came up. A co-worker said, "That's a religion that's against everything!" That pretty well sums it up.

  JW's want to live in a system that is totally opposite of their own. They want to have freedom of thought (in a limited way, of course), freedom of expression, freedom of religion, but their members are not allowed to enjoy any of these freedoms.

  What a bunch of loonies!