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  http://www.theocraticcollector.com/

  by wordyword in

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  hi all, came across this website, ran by steve searles.

  i believe he comes from carlisle, england.. it contains all sorts of "goodies" - talks, dramas, district conventions, old watchtower publications, videos etc.

  he charges a "membership fee" for folks to download ripped off youtube videos etc.

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  Mum

  Welcome to the forum, wordyword. Tell us more about yourself.
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  Why do witnesses listen to their GB

  by speargrass55 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone, i want us to discuss the gbs right to control jws.

  the gb claim, and rf jws believe that they can't understand the bible without help from the gb.

  when you ask them why they listen to the gb you hear stuff like .

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  When I went back to college in my 30's, I was having a discussion with another "older" student about people's priorities. My friend summed it up this way: Most people are just looking for somebody to follow.

  As much as I detest my decision to become a JW, I'm so glad I didn't meet some other charismatic cult leader first. Charles Manson comes to mind, a man who appeared to "have it all together" as we said in the '70's.
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  Who from JWN would you most like to have dinner with?

  by laverite in

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  2. friends

  if you could pick anyone from jwn to meet in real life to meet and have dinner with, who would that be?

  let's exclude all those who you are already friends with, who you know and love from jwn in real life.

  so or me, that excludes my friend ann and also curious butterfly.

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  I did have dinner with Barbara Anderson and her husband when we went to the Silentlambs march in NYC in 2002. I actually sat at the same table with them. They are sweethearts. The other people I sat with no longer post here.
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  Who from JWN would you most like to have dinner with?

  by laverite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you could pick anyone from jwn to meet in real life to meet and have dinner with, who would that be?

  let's exclude all those who you are already friends with, who you know and love from jwn in real life.

  so or me, that excludes my friend ann and also curious butterfly.

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  LoisLane, Hortensia and Mouthy are my choices, although there are many others. These ladies are all so down-to-earth and kind.

  If I would not feel so intimidated by their intellect, I would choose Leolaia and Billy the ex-Bethelite.
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  Black or white what Racial Discrimination have you experienced?

  by usualusername in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i could give you hundreds of experiences but let me kick off with the following.

  i boarded a train at 4am heading to an airport a few weeks ago.

  in my carriage there were at least 100 people.. .

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  First, I am Caucasian.

  I went to a Korean grocery store, and the owner or an employee followed me every step. She did not say anything to me at all, and I said nothing to her either. I got spooked and left without buying anything. When I told a Korean friend about the incident, he told me that the person was just ensuring that I found what I wanted. It's hard to understand other cultures. I'm not sure I believe what my friend told me either.
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  Contributing factor to Roman Catholics converting to JW

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw friend once asked that if churches were so great why did so many roman catholics convert to his religion.

  now i have some semblance of an answer!.

  i spoke with a professor who definitely had some familiarity with the wts.

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  juanvazquez, welcome to the forum.

  I read a book once by Barbara Grizutti Harrison, who was brought up as a JW after her family left the Roman Catholic Church. She left the JW religion as a young adult. The title of rhe book is Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of the Jehovah's Witnesses. She had a Jewish friend named Arnold who would defend her and even hold her hand when she refused to salute the flag or stand for the national anthem. There's a chapter in the book called "God Can't Kill Arnold."

  Be supportive of your wife, but find ways to make her question the bizarre beliefs she has been taught. This can go a long way in getting her to open her mind to other ideas. But don't expect anything to happen too quickly. Overcoming the brainwashing takes a lot of time.
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  Shunning squared

  by Apostating in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings my fellow warriors,.

  i have not posted my bio yet, i tried but i can't yet.. however this i can share.

  i have been divorced from my jw wife for two years now.

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  It's heart wrenching. I went through a similar situation with my daughter. It's hell. The best day of my life was when my daughter turned 18, and her dad couldn't use her as a pawn to punish me. She wants nothing to do with the Watchtower now. Her in-laws go to a fundamentalist church, and the service makes her physically ill. She can only go to liturgical churches, where the focus is on worship, not evangelizing and/or judging.

  Take one day at a time. Be sure the kids understand that you love and accept them for who they are and regardless of their choices of religion. Be sure they have a good time with you, and are going to have good memories of their time with you when they're older. I hope you don't talk to them about what's wrong with the WT. They'll figure it out by watching behaviors.

  Hang in there. It'll get better with time.
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  Casual sexism in Watchtower literature

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i notice the sexist language of the watchtower a lot more these days.

  is it on the increase or am i simply more tuned into to noticing it now?

  for example this statement in the june kingdom ministry:.

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  Galatians 3:28 says that in Christ there is no male or female, Jew nor Greek, slave nor free. Their rejection of Christ gives them free reign to classify some human beings as inferior in some way they never really explain, because there is no explanation.

  Men have upper body strength. It's a simple physical phenomenon that keeps women down. He can hurt you if you don't obey.
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  WHAT HAPPENS when a lawyer starts his OWN RELIGION?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  first, pastor russell had joined adventist bible students in their enthusiam for end times chronologies.. next, russell teamed up with leading adventist thinkers like george storrs and barbour to publish these chronologies and apologies.. finally, russell used his private wealth to cut and paste ideas from all over the religious map into his own peculiar name-brand version of adventism which included pyramidology.. local congregations kept autonomy.

  russell would have it no other way.

  but, russell had died in 1916.. .

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  I went to the site and copied Jan's thesis to MS Word. Jan is brilliant. I wish he still posted here.
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  The scientific method; published, peer reviewed, and repeatable

  by jgnat in

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  2. humour

  that's my definition of reliable, and i am sticking to it, lol.. back in january, scientists started making secret confessions on twitter using the hashtag #overlyhonestmethods.

  and now some kind soul (who probably should have been doing their research instead of playing around on the internet) combined a few of these tweets with lab photos for the rest of us to enjoy.... http://twentytwowords.com/2013/06/27/scientists-explain-their-processes-with-a-little-too-much-honesty-17-pictures/.

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  Those are hilarious!