jwfacts is a great website, but in view of the fact that "there are no facts, only interpretations", as nietzsche said, should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?
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I am just a simple country girl from east Tennessee, but I have the temerity to disagree with the esteemed Mr. Nietsche on this point.
It is a fact that food grows right out of the ground if you plant seeds. It is a fact that everyone must eat to survive. How can these FACTS be construed as interpretation?
i find it interesting that the 7/15 watchtower will be studied from september 2-29th and then the annual meeting will be exactly one week after.
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it strikes me as an effort to emphasize the fds and their role before a big announcement.. siam .
You're so right! They now have assumed the power of a dictatorship. As they are all dictators now, I think we should all refer to them as "the little 'taters."
i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.
after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.
he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.
I was going to recommend that you choose to be left alone, but you make a good point about the WT being a Hate Group. Sooner or later, they're going to be called out for some of the things they do - protecdting pedophiles, spewing hate speech about "apostates," multiple false predictions, etc. It is totally understandable that you would not want your name associated with them in any way.
When I got out, I moved far, far away, where I didn't know any JW's and was never bothered. Do what you need to do to reduce the hassle.
Best wishes for a happy future in freedom!
i don't really have a purpose in this thread, but wanted to share my thoughts and updates.. fading has, at least for now, totally stabilized.
my jw wife doesn't discuss jw things and, as difficult for me as it is, i haven't been discussing anything directly against jw policy.
oh, i slip in comments when she tries to judge people or groups based on her jw training- things like gay marriage, medical marijuana, pedophile news stories.
OTWO: I'm glad she's getting some experience mixing with "worldly" people. She is, I hope, perceptive enough to realize that they are all individuals and not as scary as they have been painted by the WT. Congratulations on your progress with her.
It's a cross you have to bear, not bare:
Bear (noiun): an animal
Bear (verb): to carry
Bare (adjective): naked
Bare (verb): to unclothe, make naked
wife and girls are at the convention today.
hate this time of year.
while my wife tries to hide it, the inevitable post convention zeal pops it's head up.
Does she talk to you about what she "learned" at the convention? Just tell her you're glad she enjoyed herself. Then go and live your life as you see fit. As my friend's dad used to tell her, "Don't worry 'bout it!"
it has been several years since my awakening.
since then i have stopped pioneering, stopped doing temp work at bethel, stopped field service (at the most, i went out a few hours a month for the last couple of months), my meeting attendance has been around 50 percent or so.
i have decided not to go back.
Do you live alone? Or do you have a spouse? Children? If you have other JW's in your household, it's more complicated.
If you're single and free, it might be a good idea to move to another town or another state.
At least, you can have your phone number changed - AND unlisted.
Avoidance is easier than confrontation.
If they knock on your door, go to the door with an ice pack on your head and tell them you have a migraine, and that migraines have become persistent and are crippling you at this point, and that you're not up to talking.
As others have said, you do not owe them an explanation. There is no reason to feel guilty unless you believe you're doing something wrong, and you are NOT. You do owe yourself the best life you can make.
All actions have consequences. If you're not ready for the consequences, maybe you're not quite ready to leave yet. But keep fading. There's no rush unless you're entirely fed up and can't take it anymore.
Best wishes for a happy future!
......or does it seem the gb is setting up the faithful for a big change on something.
seems like nowadays every other thing coming off the platform is saying hey we are the only one approved to speak for god and not liking any change we pronounce is your problem not gods..
Oh, for the good old days when "Christendom" was the enemy.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.
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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .
gma-tired, you are right about every JW being an "ordained" minister, at least back in the days when I was on the inside. We females were told to say we were a minister's wife if we were married. In some way, we were to be connected with a "minister."
One of my teenage friends said she was going to say, "My name is ____, and I'm going steady with a minister's son.
she took english, maths and physics and acheived a* a* and a. .
it is the best thing possible for me, even better than seeing her opening birthday presents or the day she won the halloween fancy dress prize at school.. her dad died five years ago but she has coped and done so well at school.
it has shown me that despite what happens in life you can still do well and reach your goals, especially if you take a cult upbringing out of the equation!
Congratulations! Your daughter is very capable in some heavy subject matter. You have every right to be proud and happy!
hi, i'm newly awakened and just needing reassurance that the wt is indeed a mind-control cult.
i have two lovely children (under 5) and a husband who is currently asleep..
You're very smart, Oogie. I didn't want to leave the cult, but I had to get away from my JW elder husband for mental health reasons. It took me two years to realize that they're just another religion, and not special at all except for their mind control techniques and many false predictions of "the end."
Tread softly, and take your time. Start making friends and participating in activities you enjoy that are not cult-centered.
Best wishes.
