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  I am a loser

  by zed is dead in

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  i just thought of something.

  i have spent most of my life feeling like i am a loser.

  i have been compensating for those messages most of my adult life.

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  Mum

  Most people go through life as "losers" of one kind or another. It's simply the human experience. I have lost friends, jobs, my home, members of my family, financial security, and, I am sure, other things I can't recall. I lost years of my life to a cult.

  There are many things I have not lost as well. Before labor unioin activism, many people lost their lives earning a living. Every day young men lose their lives on battlefields in various parts of the world. If you're still breathing in and out, you're not one of the biggest losers.

  Just another loser,

  Mum
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  We are (not) representatives of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at one time jws were issued minister identification cards such as the s-65 in which it is officially stated that the bearer "is a representative of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.. now, the watchtower specifically tells the publishers not to say they are representatives of the watchtower!.

  when did this 180 degree change take place?.

  here is the text that appears on the front of the s-65 "minister identification card.".

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  Mum

  To paraphrase Mark Twain, with ignorance and confidence, success is sure.
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  Lurkers/faders in the US - a heads up on next week's service meeting (Warwick HQ project to be discussed)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi folks.

  atlantis has very kindly let me see a copy of the aug 21, 2013 letter to all bodies of elders in the united states.. they are being instructed to re-organize the service meeting for the week commencing september 2nd (next week) to include a special recruitment talk to attract skilled volunteer workers for the new warwick hq.. an interesting feature of the letter is its comparison of the project with nehemiah's rebuilding of the walls of jerusalem.

  considering the relocation of hq is financially motivated more than anything, the analogy is more than a little bewildering.. here is a scan of the opening comments of the two-page outline, to be given in the next local needs item.... .

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  Mum

  The prime real estate in Brooklyn Heights is not "in ruins." That's a false analogy, to say the least.
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  My Jimi Hendrix experience

  by confusedandalone in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  as a 13 year old a friend of mine had a jimi hendrix record and told me if we play it backwards that they said words.

  he bought the record from a shop not far from where we lived and we were the only family that still had a record player.

  so we played the record and i spun it backwards andnothing happened.

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  Mum

  My previous post was 3 paragraphs, but it's showing up all run together. Sorry, not my fault.
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  My Jimi Hendrix experience

  by confusedandalone in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  as a 13 year old a friend of mine had a jimi hendrix record and told me if we play it backwards that they said words.

  he bought the record from a shop not far from where we lived and we were the only family that still had a record player.

  so we played the record and i spun it backwards andnothing happened.

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  Mum

  confusedandalone: The Proctor & Gamble weirdness took place in the '80's. Supposedly, a company representative of P&G was on the Phil Donahue Show and said the symbol on the P&G products was somehow associated with the occult or "demons" in JW vernacular. I could not find anyone who had actually seen the show, but they all knew somebody who knew somebody else who had seen it. ;-) Anyway, my parents (who became JW's after I had already exited - weird family) quit buying Crisco, Duncan Hines cake mix and other P&G products. So did lots of otherwise intelligent people who believed themselves to be Christians. For all their faults, my parents did not shun me. They had known me my entire life, and knew what a goody two-shoes I had always been, so they blamed my JW husband for my exit from the Watchtower. So I had the opportunity to tell them that an inked picture of a crescent moon and stars had no power. They did not believe me, of course. Nevertheless, a few weeks later, my mom started using P&G products again. She explained it with, "Well, now they're ("they" was never identified) saying that's just a lot of bull." Oh, the reasoning skills of Christians!
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  Theocratic Ministry School Review night?

  by FadeToBlack in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how can i tell without even looking at the schedule that it is time for the review?

  my wife decides she is not going to the meeting.

  she told me earlier this week we had an invitation for dinner/drinks with one of our neighbors down the street.

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  Mum

  Written review was part of the pseudo-intellectual aspect of being a JW that I actually liked. I don't recall heavy absence on written review night at either of the two congregations I attended. Nor do I recall anybody making a big deal about scores or grading the papers. I do recall walking to the restroom once and seeing the written review page of an elder's teenage son. He was just sitting there, looking bored, and not writing answers to the questions. Scrawled across the page in capital letters was one word: FOOT. That was probably his version of an "F" word.
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  I Know A MS That Just Got Reappointed As An Elder After 5 Years And Still Thinks He's Not Qualified

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he's a very good man and recognizes his limitations.

  he still dislikes field service and considers himself inferior to the other elders.

  he has almost no contact with his disfellowshipped older son.

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  My understanding is that very few JW's want to be elders these days, and they try to press anyone they can into eldership. i.e., they're desperate. To me, the fact that this young man has self-doubt means he actually may be one of the better elders.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT false prophets

  by SloppyJoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tonight on the service meeting we discussed why jws are not false prophets.

  of the ten minute part two were spent discussing that jws just had wrong expectations and only very minor changes over the years although nothing specific was mentioned.

  the other eight focused on the core bible truths that have remained the same over the years.

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  Mum

  It's like saying, "I'm not a murderer. I'm just a person who has killed a few people."
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  Reverse Shunning -- Is It Really Worth It?

  by Narcissistic Supply in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  creating an alternate reality through ambient abuse, gaslighting, and 4 generations of bullshit.

  is it really worth it engaging in reverse shunning.

  im praying for more ambient abuse to take me back to kansas, toto.. .

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  Mum

  Quendi, I usually agree with you, but I have some issues with your view this time.

  I do think there's no reason to go out of our way to see JW's or interact with them. But, if I see someone I know, JW or not, I will acknowledge them. It would be rude not to. They are the ones being a**holes, so I'm willing to be the nobler party, and to let them be seen for what they are.
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  I do not believe Horoscope BS but......

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  most of my dates including my ex wife in my lifetime was born in the month of august.

  i was born in april.

  i am trying to figure out why i keep dating someone that was born in august.

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  Mum

  August is the most common birth month, probably because of the November holidays. My mother and my ex-husband were both born in August.